Originally Posted by jhcooley
Originally Posted by justanotherskipro
I think the biggest problem here is the when we give examples of maneuvers that feature weighted release that often gets mis-understood to mean that maneuver is the weighted release. It's only a edge release without the usual strong unweighting up or down we used a long time ago. Nothing more.
" rel="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/icon14.gif"> What JASP said. Many of the maneuvers being discussed use a weighted release, but the weighted release is only part of the maneuver.
Weighted release: Stand with skis perpendicular to fall line, edges engaged, stationary. Slowly flatten skis until you start to sideslip down the fall line. Congratulations. You've achieved a weighed release.
A pure carve often employs a fully weighted release. The edges do release even though the skier guides the skis to prevent any pivot. The carve will be cleanest if pressure is maintained rather than interrupted.
In a pivot slip, the edges never fully engage, but the skier never unweights, either.
OK, now I'm getting confused... (and not just by the hieroglyphics produced by these danged Editors!)
"Stand with skis perpendicular to fall line, edges engaged, stationary. Slowly flatten skis until you start to sideslip down the fall line. Congratulations. You've achieved a weighed release"
Isn't this a little like saying a Pivot Skip is just a 'pivot'? The whole point of naming a specific movement pattern or technique (collection of movements to a purpose) is to differentiate that concept from everything else. If a skier simply tips their skis downhill (as is done for every turn) then why would this warrant being named a "Weighted Release"? Leaving our weight on the skis is automatic, requiring no added effort or movement -- so why would we 'name' this nothing-done / non-movement?
Now, if the skier ADDs a pop, an unweighting move, a sharp twist (all specific "extras") then I could see differentiating each extra-movement pattern with a name. Otherwise, why bother?
That said, I've always heard (and understood) the Weighted Release to specifically mean the foot-to-foot weighting pattern where our skier stays primarily on the old outside-ski as it becomes the new inside-ski - as opposed to the long practiced pattern of transferring weight/stance to the old inside-ski prior to new turn, thereby taking much of our weight off the old outside-ski just about the time we 'Release' that particular ski's edge (or both edges in the bigger picture). To me, Weighted Release is a very specific label targeting a very specific pattern.
To avoid mixing things up for Lurkers, I'd like to clarify a couple patterns (assuming my own definition of Weighted Release is used).
1) A Weighted Release (as described above) is used in both a Passive Weight Transfer and a White Pass Turn.
2) During a Passive Weight Transfer, the skier makes no deliberate effort
to transfer support to their new outside-ski. Instead, Centrifugal Force causes the Weight Transfer to happen on its own. This transfer happens somewhere at the top of the turn, wherever CF develops.
3) During a White Pass Turn, the skier makes a deliberate effort
to stay balanced over the old outside-ski as it becomes the new inside-ski. Here, the Weight Transfer (to the outside-ski) occurs only when the skier chooses - which may be any time up to about Turn Apex (though generally not beyond). There is no requirement that a ski be off the ground - only that the skier remains balanced over the new inside-ski right into the new turn (meaning something like a 60/40 weight distribution still qualifies).
That's my story, and I'm sticking to it...