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Is this ski too much for my 13yo daughter...Head Monster iM82?

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I have been looking for a new ski for my daughter as she has drastically outgrown her Rossie "kiddie" skis.  She is tall and thin...5'7" and 105 pounds and has been skiing since she was 4 years old.  I would classify her a level 6/7 skier and although we ski primarily in the NE we do go out west one of two times a year.  We have skied in Whistler, Lake Tahoe and Colorado and plan on going to SLC this coming January.  She likes to ski mostly on piste but does like to venture off of it ocassionally.  She is not a daredevil by any stretch but can be somewhat aggressive.

 

So yesterday I am at a local ski swap and came upon a pristine pair of Head Monster i82 liquidmetal skis in 150cm size.  The bindings are a Tyrolia integrated binding system D8.  I think they are a 2007 model because of the color...I have attached three pictures below to this thread.  The skis dimenstions are 120-80-106.

 

I really bought these skis because I actually remember looking at these a few years ago and remembered all the good ratings.  I also got them for a steal.....$175 for the skis and bindings.  Again the skis are basically new (used once I was told) and actually has the original price tag on them...$899!  It seemed like truly too good a deal to pass up. 

 

My fear is a bought a ski that will be too much for my 105 pound daughter to handle right now.  I like they are a bit wider underfoot but these are not woman's skis so I am fearful that she will be overmatched.  I guess I could always hang onto them for when she is older or just sell them again on eBay, etc.  I know I would at the very least get my money back!

 

Thanks in advance for the help!

 

Marc

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post #2 of 18

Yes, they are too much ski. The iM82 is a demanding ski that is known for it's damp and powerful character, a 105lbs 13 year old girl who "isn't a daredevil" and is level 6 or 7 will be over matched, even though the length may actually be too short, She would be much better served by a softer ski in a longer length.

post #3 of 18

well since you bought them you cna try them....

 

I do agree with whiteroom though

post #4 of 18

What skis has she been using, rentals, demos, or the kiddie skis?

 

You got them now, so you may as well try them.  The thing is if she is not able to bend them into an arc at the speeds she skis you should get something she can bend.  Of course she may just start skiing faster with proper equipment.  Have her try them for a day, and  see how she is using them after a few hours.

 

http://www.epicski.com/forum/thread/52038/should-you-buy-expert-skis

 

http://www.epicski.com/forum/thread/65117/intermediate-skiers-who-prefer-expert-skis

post #5 of 18
Thread Starter 

Thanks for the replies.  She was skiing 130cm kiddie Rossi skis prior to this.  She beat them up pretty good and it was long overdue for an upgrade.  I may try to sell these on eBay.....


Edited by gores95 - 11/15/10 at 10:51am
post #6 of 18

I think 150 is the right length, but that's a pretty big jump from 130 cm kiddie skis to 150 cm IM82s.   You might want to get demo something in between for a few days before letting her on the 150s, maybe something like Dynastar Exclusive  Active in a 143.

post #7 of 18

I agree with WR and disagree vehemently with "might as well try (ski) them" . reason is, she could get hurt, those skis are somewhat dangerous to a skier like your daughter. she will give them a little bit of input, steer with her knees perhaps, and the ski will respond by doing absolutely nothing.

 

they are suited to an expert skier weighting around 125. that ski in that length is sort of an odd thing to begin with.

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I am just going to buy her a different pair of skis.  What do you guys think of the Fischer Koa 75 My Style Skis with V9 Railflex Bindings?  I found a pretty good deal for a new 2010 pair.  Their measurements are 119-75-102 and they have a 150 and 155 cm length in stock though I am leaning towards the 150.  These seem to be a woman's specific skis and are probably much easier for her to handle.  Thanks.

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I am just going to buy her a different pair of skis.  What do you guys think of the Fischer Koa 75 My Style Skis with V9 Railflex Bindings?  I found a pretty good deal for a new 2010 pair.  Their measurements are 119-75-102 and they have a 150 and 155 cm length in stock though I am leaning towards the 150.  These seem to be a woman's specific skis and are probably much easier for her to handle.  Thanks.



Not much of an improvement.  This is a beginner ski with no grip, no stability, poor carving ability and a low speed limit.  IMHO of course.

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I am just going to buy her a different pair of skis.  What do you guys think of the Fischer Koa 75 My Style Skis with V9 Railflex Bindings?  I found a pretty good deal for a new 2010 pair.  Their measurements are 119-75-102 and they have a 150 and 155 cm length in stock though I am leaning towards the 150.  These seem to be a woman's specific skis and are probably much easier for her to handle.  Thanks.



Not much of an improvement.  This is a beginner ski with no grip, no stability, poor carving ability and a low speed limit.  IMHO of course.



I appreciate the feedback...how about the Fischer Vapor in 155?  Seems like a bit of a step up?  Or the Dynastar Exclusive Active?  Thanks.

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I appreciate the feedback...how about the Fischer Vapor in 155?  Seems like a bit of a step up?  Or the Dynastar Exclusive Active?  Thanks.



that Dynastar looks fine. in that category are generally skis by all manufacturers that make womens' specific models, light but good performance.  

post #12 of 18

Yes to Dynastar Exclusive Active in 148 or 153.

No to Fischer Vapor.

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  Or the Dynastar Exclusive Active?  Thanks.


I'm hoping these are good, I just picked up a pair for my wife.  They got great reviews on Realskiers.com, if that means anything.  Oh, and the iM82's while real nice, are very demanding.
 

post #14 of 18

Dynastar's yes, although keep in mind they will be damp, smooth, some beef, maybe more suited to faster speeds and bigger turns for someone her size and level, so think about her style and likes in other skis. Giant no on iM82's. If you think your daughter might like a more lively ski, bit easier to turn, with a bit more float for her visits to the backside, might hunt around for a Fischer Koa 78 or 84; both are lighter female models of the Wateas, nice grip, decent float for someone at 105 lbs, nice ski to grow with. Last year's still here and there for good prices; Google. 

post #15 of 18

I don't think the Dynaster Exclusive Active will be too much ski for your daughter.   I had an opportunity to examine (but not ski) the Dynastar Exclusive Active last winter.  My daughter and I went skiing and she needed skis as we didn't have access to hers.  I examined what they had available, twisting, bending, pawing, and otherwise handling their wares.  I settled a slightly too short Dynastar Exclusive Elite ski for my daughter, as opposed to the correct length Dynastar Exclusive Active ski.  The Active had less torsional rigidity, and seemed like it would have less grip and be more forgiving than the Elite model.  What I later read on realskiers reviews confirmed my decision.  My daughter is an adult woman about level 7, but likes to arc turns at speed when she deems it safe to do so.  She didn't like skiing fast until I got her onto some proper skis.

post #16 of 18
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OK guys....here is what it comes down to:  the Dynastar Exclusive Active 153cm vs. FIscher Koa 78 in 150 cm.  Both prices are pretty close.  Please help me end this madness with any suggestions.  Thanks!

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OK guys....here is what it comes down to:  the Dynastar Exclusive Active 153cm vs. FIscher Koa 78 in 150 cm.  Both prices are pretty close.  Please help me end this madness with any suggestions.  Thanks!



Dynastar Exclusie Active.  No doubt about it.

 

(devil.gifKoa 84, would be a good choice for skiing deeper snow, but not for hard snow imho, Koa 78 not so much, too easy to outgrow, too low a speed limit, imhodevil.gif)

post #18 of 18

there is more than one perfect ski. don't fret over it too much. fischers and dynastars are both good skis.

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