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K2 Sidestash - which binding for touring?

post #1 of 11
Thread Starter 

Regarding Sidestash (K2):

which touring binding would you recommend? It should handle the ski - 108 mm waist - hence the brakes shall be for touring ski a problem....

(I am about 78 kg - about 172 pounds...I do not jump much)

 

Thanks Lukas

post #2 of 11

Dynafit.

 

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post #3 of 11

Yep.  Dynafit Vertical ST with 110 mm brakes.  Requires tech compatible boots.

post #4 of 11

If you don't have a Dynafit Tech Insert compatible boot, then I'd suggest:

 

Marker Tour F12/ F10 or Fritschi Pro

Marker Baron

older Fritschi Freeride

Marker Duke

 

 

 

 

Silveretta

 

In that order.

post #5 of 11

I think any discussion of whats the best must be in the context of what you are doing. It really matters what sort use the binding is going to see. The duke vs the dynafit is the difference between a 7" freeride bike and hardtail 29er. Do you want ski mountaineering and peak bagging, long tours, short laps, slack country and inbounds, etc... DO you have / want to get, tech fitting boots?

 

If you want it as tourable as possible and will be buying tech fitting boots, then Dynafit all the way.

 

If you want a tour oriented binding with out tech fittings, I don't see how you prefer the F10 over the FR Pro. Not being able to lock the heel with out taking the ski off is huge -- especially if you are mostly pow farming short laps.

 

If you are thinking mix of inbounds and side country primarily, then the duke or Baron is the a good bet. .

post #6 of 11
Thread Starter 

Tech fitting means the Dynafit inserts?  Recently I have Scarpa Spirit 4 - so with Dynafit inserts.

 

My question was pointed this way:

The Dynafit in the version ST (10 DIN) according the experiences from friends from Norway releases too often the toe piece.

Is the FT (12 DIN) version really more stable against this? Is it possible to adjust the release tension in the front (toe) piece in Dynafit FT 12? Or is it preset "hard" to some value......

I do not want to ski in the fully locked mode on Dynafit. Onestly, I have never owned Dynafit, it should have be very stable and almost without play side to side.

  I tried the Diamir freeride  - older version, the white/grey one. Slightly "sloppy" side to side - it is however old binding after 5 years....  but anyway I would prefer little less play.

 

 

Currently onsidering Dynafit FT 12 DIN  versus  Marker Tour F12 - 1700 gramms versus New Diamir Freeride/1990 gramms

 

Marker Tour F12  and Diamir Freeride Pro have both the advantage to adopt also hard alpine boots, this would be nice for me.

 

Any experiences with Marker tour F12? looks nice, but it is very new here, so noone knows about the reliability and play after some use.....

 

Lukas

post #7 of 11
Thread Starter 

I want to use Sidestash as my more universal ski off-piste, about 50% of my skiing days in resort with lifts.

Rest - one day trips. 

Moderate dificult terrain, trees, occasionally small jumps (3-6 feet height... ? )

 

For longer trips I have narrower and slightly lighter skis (I mostly ski in Austria, Italy and Swiss, since in Czech republic are no suitable mountains.....)

 

Lukas

post #8 of 11

 

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Originally Posted by Sakullic View Post

Tech fitting means the Dynafit inserts? 

 

Yes

 

 

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Originally Posted by Sakullic View Post

The Dynafit in the version ST (10 DIN) according the experiences from friends from Norway releases too often the toe piece.

 

 

Operator error.  

 

 

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Originally Posted by Sakullic View Post

Currently onsidering Dynafit FT 12 DIN  versus  Marker Tour F12 - 1700 gramms versus New Diamir Freeride/1990 gramms

 

Dynafit Vertical ST - 572 g.  Your choice.  As you noted, the Marker Tour bindings are new and there's little reliability data.  

 

 

 

post #9 of 11
Thread Starter 


How can it be operator error? There are reportedly more people stating that in case of Dynafit on fat skis....

 

Can you explain?

Is the noted "pretension" in toepiece adjustable?

 

´Thanks Luk

 

 


 

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Originally Posted by Sakullic View Post

The Dynafit in the version ST (10 DIN) according the experiences from friends from Norway releases too often the toe piece.

 

 

Operator error.  

 

 

post #10 of 11

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Originally Posted by Sakullic View Post

How can it be operator error?

 

People neglect to clear ice and/or packed snow out from the tech fittings on the boot toe or from under the arm pivot in the binding toepiece.

http://www.wildsnow.com/articles/dynafit_faq/dynafit_faq1.html#wingclose

http://www.wildsnow.com/articles/dynafit_faq/dynafit_faq1.html#icegap

 

In fact, you should read this FAQ - this guy knows:

http://www.wildsnow.com/articles/dynafit_faq/dynafit_faq1.html

 

 

Quote:
There are reportedly more people stating that in case of Dynafit on fat skis....

 

"...reportedly..."?  What is your source there?  

post #11 of 11
Thread Starter 

My source is one skier in Norway and one here, in Czech republic (in Norway howerver, there is big community.... , there the reportedly....

Anyway, I will take the above links in to account :-), thanks...

 

I have skied only Diamir Freeride - older piece (overal function was fine, just the weight of the Rossi Bandit B3 with diamir freeride was too high....)

That is why I now hesitate with the Sidestashes. I ski however normally 50% of time in resort on lifts and 50% without lifts, so it is hard to decide between Dynafits and other binding....

 

Anyway, thanks for advices...

Lukas

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