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post #31 of 45

 

I have a Thermic boot dryer which uses warm air, but nowhere near enough to effect my footbeds. Regardless, I never keep it on for more than a couple of hours - there's no need and if my boots aren't completely dry, they will be by the next day.

 

However, I have learned to be careful with my Hotronics as they they get pretty hot when set on 4. While I rarely turn them up to 3 when I'm wearing my boots, I (used to) crank them all the way up to drain the betteries before recharging.

 

Got new boots last year and both the fitter and I were surprised to see the toes of my Instaprint footbeds deformed. Nothing a little zap with a heat gun couldn't fix, but no longer use the 4 setting.

post #32 of 45

Yes, they already have the Thermic insoles with wires. I just took mine out of my Atomics and moved them to my telemark boots. But it's the batteries that are the expensive part, the insoles are relatively cheap.

 

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Originally Posted by contesstant View Post

My new Atomics are "pre-wired" for boot heaters. Does this mean I would only need to buy the battery pack and not the full system?

post #33 of 45
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Yes, they already have the Thermic insoles with wires. I just took mine out of my Atomics and moved them to my telemark boots. But it's the batteries that are the expensive part, the insoles are relatively cheap.

 

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Originally Posted by contesstant View Post

My new Atomics are "pre-wired" for boot heaters. Does this mean I would only need to buy the battery pack and not the full system?


 


Oh fantastic--being totally facetious here, as the shop that sold me the boots replaced the insoles and didn't give me the originals. Sounds like I need to call that shop tomorrow. I'm slightly pissed to say the least!

post #34 of 45
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Oh fantastic--being totally facetious here, as the shop that sold me the boots replaced the insoles and didn't give me the originals. Sounds like I need to call that shop tomorrow. I'm slightly pissed to say the least!



Sounds very strange they would do that... I wonder if the system has changed from last year when I bought my Atomic boots. (When I bought mine the shop almost forced me to by the batteries too even though I thought I didn't need them - I love the heated boots!) If the system is still there you should see the wires that attach to batteries.

post #35 of 45

Nope, no wires. But they are def supposed to be there. These are this year's boots. Says right in the brochure that came with them.

post #36 of 45

Don't put the cover over the element, you don't need it and it reduces the warmth. Remember, heaters don't really keep your feet warm but they stop them from getting cold. I have been using heaters for two seasons and am very happy with them. I also agree with TPJ's placement of battery, side, not back. Another thing to consider is getting a Hot Gear bag, you will be starting the day with a toasty boot. 

post #37 of 45
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Don't put the cover over the element, you don't need it and it reduces the warmth. Remember, heaters don't really keep your feet warm but they stop them from getting cold. I have been using heaters for two seasons and am very happy with them. I also agree with TPJ's placement of battery, side, not back. Another thing to consider is getting a Hot Gear bag, you will be starting the day with a toasty boot. 



just got hotronics m3 and am installing them tomorrow.  is it really ok to not put the black pad cover on and just let the heating element on your sock?  does the pad dissipate heat throughout your foot?

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 is it really ok to not put the black pad cover on and just let the heating element on your sock?  does the pad dissipate heat throughout your foot?

The pad has no magical heat disributing properties - it just helps keep the heating element in place. My only concern about not using it would be that the heating element could work loose from repeatedly sliding your foot in and out of the boot, possibly breaking the connection to the cable.

 

For what it's worth, I have the M3's with the pad on (it's really just an adhesive backed perforated fabric), and rarely turn them up above 2, so I wouldn't be too concerned about diminished warmth.

 

post #39 of 45
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My wife was very happy with the HotTronics at Solitude over Christmas.

post #40 of 45

Question for all you Therm-ic users / dealers out there:

Which of the Therm-ic battery packs would you recommend?

Would the Basix model (about $90/pair street) be sufficient to provide my wife with 5-7hrs of warmth, or are we better advised to step up to a set of Therm-ic's proprietary NimH cells (Max+ $145; Supermax+ $200, incl. charger) or (gulp) the $345 Li-Ion cell/charger combo?

She has a set of Atomic boots pre-wired for Therm-ic, and is looking at about 20 days of frontside skiing this season, mostly in colder East Coast conditions & on our Feb trip to Big Sky as well.

 

The Basix is the battery pack model that consists of two housings, each of which holds 4-AA batteries.

We have a good supply of high-quality NimH hybrid AA batteries, and a high-end Maha intelligent conditioning charger, and was hoping the Basix would be a viable option to leverage our existing battery investment.

 

Also, it looks like Burton is using Therm-ic systems on their snowboard boots.

Am I right in assuming that the Burton-branded Therm-ic battery would be cross-compatible with the footbeds in my wife's Atomics?

 

Any relevant positive/negative experience with recent model Thermic batteries would be appreciated.

post #41 of 45

I've got Max+ batteries and they work fine for 5-7 hours at medium setting. The Basix model I've not tried, actually I haven't even seen one. But of course if you have enough batteries then something using AA batteries should work forever wink.gif

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Originally Posted by Veloscente View Post

Question for all you Therm-ic users / dealers out there:

Which of the Therm-ic battery packs would you recommend?

Would the Basix model (about $90/pair street) be sufficient to provide my wife with 5-7hrs of warmth, or are we better advised to step up to a set of Therm-ic's proprietary NimH cells (Max+ $145; Supermax+ $200, incl. charger) or (gulp) the $345 Li-Ion cell/charger combo?

She has a set of Atomic boots pre-wired for Therm-ic, and is looking at about 20 days of frontside skiing this season, mostly in colder East Coast conditions & on our Feb trip to Big Sky as well.

 

The Basix is the battery pack model that consists of two housings, each of which holds 4-AA batteries.

We have a good supply of high-quality NimH hybrid AA batteries, and a high-end Maha intelligent conditioning charger, and was hoping the Basix would be a viable option to leverage our existing battery investment.

 

Also, it looks like Burton is using Therm-ic systems on their snowboard boots.

Am I right in assuming that the Burton-branded Therm-ic battery would be cross-compatible with the footbeds in my wife's Atomics?

 

Any relevant positive/negative experience with recent model Thermic batteries would be appreciated.


Veloscente,

 

First of all I must say that Therm-ic has stood behind there product and provided me with outstanding customer service. However, I have had a lot of issues with the Li-Ion packs. The electronics in the case has failed me, and the batteries packs inside have died completely. Therm-ic has been very good about replacing defective product, but it is still a pain in the butt.  For this reason, I would stick with something less proprietary. You would be better off getting something that holds standard AA (or AAA) and then getting some really good rechargeables such as the Sanyo Eneloop batteries. That way, on a really cold day you can crank them up and switch them at lunch for a fresh set.

 

post #43 of 45

The Hotronics that were bequeathed to me have pretty much died (one battery still holds a charge, the other not so much).

 

Looking to score some new, fresh ones for the season, but am curious about the performance of Thermic vs. Hotronic vs. Conform'able.

 

The Hotronic seems to be the one that most folks have used, but anybody have any feedback on the Thermics or the Conform'able (they are more pricey, but curious as to whether or not the more priceyness = better product).

 

 

post #44 of 45

I had Hotronics before switching to to Thermic's maybe 5 or 6 years ago.  They have all evolved & gotten better.  I would say that the difference is negligible.

 

Depending on how old yours are, you may be able to get a replacement battery.  Just make sure it is compatible with your system.

JF
 

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Originally Posted by dookey67 View Post

The Hotronics that were bequeathed to me have pretty much died (one battery still holds a charge, the other not so much).

 

Looking to score some new, fresh ones for the season, but am curious about the performance of Thermic vs. Hotronic vs. Conform'able.

 

The Hotronic seems to be the one that most folks have used, but anybody have any feedback on the Thermics or the Conform'able (they are more pricey, but curious as to whether or not the more priceyness = better product).

 

 



 

 

post #45 of 45

The Hotronics I have are pretty old and rather bulky compared to the newer models, so I'd just assume grab something newer and more sveldt (plus the ones I had were free, so I'm currently not out anything).

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