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Atomic Carving Skis

post #1 of 16
Thread Starter 

I'm looking to buy some atomic skis, mostly for carving as well as a bit of all-mountain and trying to get the bang for my buck so I'm mostly looking at the 2009 atomic drive 11, 9 and atomic whiteout nomads. I'm leaning toward the atomic drive 11s, but I'm a bit hesitant because of its emphasis on groomed terrain. I'm 17 years old, about a 6-7 level skier and I ski mostly in NH and VT. I probably carve 70-80% of the time, but not always in groomed terrain so I'm not sure about the Drive series. 

 

-Thanks

post #2 of 16

I'm no expert but if you are looking for a true "carving" ski it seems like Atomic's offerings aren't that strong, other than recreational race skis. Might want to look at the Head Supershape Magnum or Fischer Progressors, maybe Dynastar Contact 4x4 to suit more off-piste, etc.

 

With that said, the Atomic Nomad Smoke Ti received good reviews @ realskiers.

 

Personally I might rather have a ski that is more suited towards icy hardpack cause that's a lot of days in VT, even if you plan to take it off piste.

post #3 of 16



 

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Originally Posted by chris719 View Post

I'm no expert but if you are looking for a true "carving" ski it seems like Atomic's offerings aren't that strong, other than recreational race skis. Might want to look at the Head Supershape Magnum or Fischer Progressors, maybe Dynastar Contact 4x4 to suit more off-piste, etc.

 

With that said, the Atomic Nomad Smoke Ti received good reviews @ realskiers.

 

Personally I might rather have a ski that is more suited towards icy hardpack cause that's a lot of days in VT, even if you plan to take it off piste.


 

Atomic D2 VF82 will run rings around the Head & Fischer skis listed  on NE 'pack powder'. 

Dynastar is not even close.

 

Just watch out for the not too forgiving part.

Caveat - May be too much ski for a level 6-7.


 

post #4 of 16
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Originally Posted by KingGrump View Post



 


 

Atomic D2 VF82 will run rings around the Head & Fischer skis listed  on NE 'pack powder'. 

Dynastar is not even close.

 

Just watch out for the not too forgiving part.

Caveat - May be too much ski for a level 6-7.


 

thanks for the input, aren't the d2 series just the newer versions of the drive series?
 

post #5 of 16
Thread Starter 

Thanks for the input, I've been looking more into atomics just because I've been using c-series skis for years now and loved them but wanted something a bit better. Aren't the D2 series just the newest version of the Drive series?

post #6 of 16

As I understand the Atomic line:

Atomic hardpack carving skis = Atomic race SL and Atomic D2 race GS

D2 VF85 = Atomic all mountain ski that's good at carving.

post #7 of 16

Other than feel I highly doubt brand has any impact on whether a ski is good on hard snow. I see no reason why D2 VF82 should be any better than any other cap construction 82mm 16+m radius ski. In fact it's construction would suggest it can only be worse than a Head Supershape or Fischer WC SC using sandwich construction with vertical sidewalls. 82mm underfoot doesn't really sound like the makings of a race carver to me.

 

Not to mention it's strange to compare what is more of a GS radius ski to shorter SL-like skis.

 

Just my gut feeling here, haven't been on any D2 ski.


Edited by chris719 - 11/9/10 at 7:53pm
post #8 of 16

A level 6-7 recreational skier should not be on a race board - breeds too many bad habits. Had to be wired at all times. 

 

The new Atomic D2 series skis (09/10 & 10/11) are completely different in construction to the older drive series. 

I've skied most of the upper end Atomic & Head skis and some Fischers in the last decade - grip on ice, Atomic takes the cake by far.

 

My first demo run on the D2 VF82 last year had me saying - 'Got to get me one of this'. This is from a guy with 5 pairs of skis under 3 years old. 

Retired my Head supershape after that. Had to stay within the 5 ski limit.

    

Best bet is to demo & find what you like.

post #9 of 16

I think the Atomic D2 VF skis will punish a level 6-7 skier.  Tread lightly in your consideration of these skis for your purposes.  I think the Smoke Ti would be the better move - still has that infamous Atomic edge hold while having a more forgiving flex pattern.

post #10 of 16

The only Atomics I find good for carving are D2 SL & GS........

Especially for NE skiing... The rest of the models aren't too stiff...

 

This is for hardpack groomed only.


Edited by andy4g63 - 11/10/10 at 1:13pm
post #11 of 16

I don't agree the D2 VF75 will punish a level 6-7 skier. I just tested a bunch of skis last weekend and could handle the Atomics easily, They were actually great in grip and it was easy to get that grip without great technique. I am a level 5 skier most of the time (level 6 sometimes on a good day smile.gif) and found them somewhat boring but definitely not too hard to handle (unlike for instance the Salomon x-wing Tornado Ti). The D2 system makes them turnable even when going very slow. Even the D2 VF Race GS is not very hard to steer, although it did lure me into varying turns a little bit too abrupt. I don't think the GS will please many people off piste though.

 

I really loved the Nomad Blackeye Ti in the test btw and this will probably do well outside groomed territory. It isn't really a carver however, rather an allrounder. It is extremely forgiving and will not punish any but the largest mistakes. It is a probably a bit light for very fast work. I found the Nomad Smoke Ti to be too light.

 

With all this take into account that I am quite big (6'6" and over 220 lbs), but some lighter-but-better skiers seemed to agree with me on these.    

post #12 of 16

A level 6-7 needs to learn how to carve a ski.  A ski that's too stiff will inhibit progress in this regard and I felt that the D2 VF skis were fairly stiff skis.  If you're still learning to really tip your skis and carve all parts of your turns then do yourself a favor and get on a ski that doesn't require 30+mph to be able to work it into a decent amount of bend.

post #13 of 16

I took my buddy's Atomic D2 (the white one ) out to Vail last year. I think this ski has a 76 waist? Anyway, I liked it on the groomed alot. My own hard pack ski is a Head Super Shape Speed and my comparison between the two skis is the Head doesn't give up any grip. But when I was in Vail the snow when it wasn't powder was groomed perfection. Everything skis pretty good.

 

I really like the Head's. I was surprised to see new D2's on ebay at pretty discounted prices already.

post #14 of 16
Thread Starter 

Thanks a lot for the suggestions I guess I'd say I'm more of a level 7 skier after looking more carefully at the classifications but I was also wondering if there are any last year models you guys would recommend- I'm trying to keep it under 500. 

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post #16 of 16
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I'm looking at atomic d2 vf 75's now, but I'm not sure about the length. I'm 5'10" and 130 lbs, not really sure weather to go for the 166s or 175s. I ski fairly aggressively, but almost always on piste.


Edited by kingpin440 - 11/13/10 at 5:52pm
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