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Kid skis. Getting grown up?

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Looking for a ski recommendation for my advanced 12 yr old son, 5'1", 91 lbs. Ski's at least 2 wks in East and 2 weeks out west. Loves bumps, trees, and steeps. Has great technique in the challenging terrain (can handle everything in vail and beaver creek) but needs work on his carving on groomers where he gets sloppy. I was looking probably in 140-145cm range? Hope to get 2 seasons out of them. Would like some width for him underfoot for the occasional powder day. Twin tip or straight is fine so long as it fits the terrain needs. Wasn't sure if he is ready to progress to adult ski or female adult ski with neuter graphics. Net surfing came up with Armada Coda and Volkl Gotama.





Look forward to hearing what folks think!
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There is so little information out there on kids' skis so I mostly haunt the ski shops and check out the skis on the internet, especially at Al's Ski Equipment Barn [http://www.untracked.com/p3792c2b53-11_volkl_gotama_junior_all_mountain_rockered_skis.html] -- I've also bought skis through that web site without a problem. I look for skis that aren't being marketed for beginners that come from a name brand company. I bought my 12-year old son a pair of the 2011 Volkl Gotama Jr skis, 148 cm, for this coming season. Since we live in Utah, I looked for something a little wider than might be suitable on the East Coast and these are 80mm under foot (he's also getting a new pair of powder skis (K2 Bad Apple) for Christmas, but that's a surprise). Talent-wise he sounds much like your son. We mostly ski off-piste at Alta or Solitude with a little time in the park, but not much on groomers. We haven't been up skiing yet, so I can't tell you how he likes them or how they ski, but can post an update once we get out.

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Similar situation with my kid. I posted a closely related question recently. I would say your lengths are on the short side if you want to get 2 seasons' worth. I would have said 150 - 160cm, unless you're talking about a ski that's specifically designed to be skied short, like a slalom ski. My son is same age, same height, reverse skill set (better form on groomers, but a very solid skier all around) and his 140s from the last couple years don't quite reach his chin. They're going to be too short for him by the end of the season, if not before. I don't have a good recommendation on a ski model ... thus my earlier post. But skis like the Gotama are too wide for normal Eastern conditions [EDIT: if I had read the above post carefully, I would have realized that the kids' Goats are narrower. My bad. Sorry!], especially for a kid, IMHO. (A ski of a given width feels wider to a shorter person - he doesn't have as much leverage to get the ski on edge.)  I would be looking for something in the 80mm range, given your criteria, especially considering your implied comment about wanting him to up the game on clean carves. At his weight he won't need as wide as ski out west as you might want. My two cents.

 

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Looking for a ski recommendation for my advanced 12 yr old son, 5'1", 91 lbs. Ski's at least 2 wks in East and 2 weeks out west. Loves bumps, trees, and steeps. Has great technique in the challenging terrain (can handle everything in vail and beaver creek) but needs work on his carving on groomers where he gets sloppy. I was looking probably in 140-145cm range? Hope to get 2 seasons out of them. Would like some width for him underfoot for the occasional powder day. Twin tip or straight is fine so long as it fits the terrain needs. Wasn't sure if he is ready to progress to adult ski or female adult ski with neuter graphics. Net surfing came up with Armada Coda and Volkl Gotama.





Look forward to hearing what folks think!
 
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My kid who is roughly the same size (a little lighter) skis on 148 Matra Jrs.  His little brother also skis on a shorter pair of the same skis.  I am sold that it is a pretty good product and seems well made with good bases etc.  They were a huge step up from regular kids skis, reasonably priced, and sufficiently "cool" for kids.  They are a little narrower and not rockered like the new Gotama Jr but still provide pretty good float for kids of that weight.

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Thanks for your input. We do our Eastern skiing only when there's fresh stuff and we're mostly in the trees. Look forward to hearing how your son's gotamas work out. I think i'm leaning to the armada coda's since a rocker may be too noodly on the groomers for him but at least it's got enough underfoot to let him enjoy the good stuff when we can get it.
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I've tried the mantras myself and the adult version is way too stiff for my taste. I don't know if the jrs are the similar in flex. Will check them out though. Thanks for tip.
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