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First good pair of skis

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Inevitable new skis post.

I've been skiing since I was 5 (so 20 years now), but always the 3 or 4 times a year. A little more now that I've gotten older. I'd probably rate myself at high intermediate or lower advanced. Ski most terrain, but not overly aggressive. Looking to get into touring.

Anyways, my last pair of skis were bought in 2002 (Rossignol Power Cut 10.6, 160 length), and I'm thinking it's time to get something better with newer tech. The old Rossignol's sank like nothing else when I was at Revelstoke.
I'm 5'6", and about 145 lbs.

Doing resort skiing, but looking to give AT a try.

Ski groomers, bumps, and dip into the trees, but not the park or any big drops. 

I'm in the rockies (day trips to Lake Louise/Sunshine, multi day trips out to BC interior).

I can get a deal for Movement skis and Fritschi bindings.
Given that, I was leaning towards the 167 Movement Couloir (120-87-109, 21m rad), and the Fritschi Freeride Plus.

Couple questions.
167 length. Has anything changed regarding suggested lengths? The 160 Rossi's hit me about the nose.

Been hearing some of the new designs ride shorter now (not sure on the rocker/early rise of the Couloir).

Freeride Plus bindings. Hear they're pretty standard AT bindings, but would be be alright for resort skiing? Again, not a big jumper/cliff dropper.

And if I drop the AT experiment, and other binding suggestions?

Been trying to re-educate myself on ski tech, but still pretty intimidating.



Edited by Chingyul - 11/3/10 at 9:47pm
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Sounds like you are looking for about the right length.  The Fritschis are pretty good for what they are.  Don't expect the same power transfer as alpine bindings, but for someone your size and skill level, I think they would do fine for a daily driver.  The standard choice these days for on piste and BC performance would be some Marker Dukes or Barons- these are on sale regularly at Evo.com if you use the discount codes.  Note that the Marker touring bindings are significantly heavier than Fritschis.  I tele most of the time and don't typically rely on my bindings that much for power transfer, so I would go with the Fritschis (what I have on my snow kiting setup).  The Couloirs would be a solid pick if you want to emphasize firm snow/on piste performance. There are definitely a LOT of better options for powder performance.  If you plan to do much touring, especially in the winter, you will definitely want something that provides flotation and therefore stability at speed, otherwise you will be wallowing like you were at Revelstoke.  If you want this kind of powder performance, but still decent all mountian handling, you will have to split the extremes and go for about 100 mm waist width.  In the Movement lineup, this would probably be the Sluff.  There are lots of options for something like this though.  The more popular include the Liberty Helix, Volkl Gotama, Line Prophet 100, Icelantic Nomad, etc.  Hope this helps.

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Troll ?

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Originally Posted by lj269 View Post

Troll ?

Troll? Me?

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Originally Posted by lj269 View Post

Troll ?

Your a dope.


To the OP. I love the Movement Couloir. I have it's predecessor the Thunder. As mentioned, this ski has more of a firm bias IMO. For your intended purpose, I would go with the Sluff, if you get a deal on Movement skis. I will be using Praxis Back Countrys with Dynafit bindings and Scrapa boots this season.

Have fun doing your research and have a great season.

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Apologies if my Friday night cynicism metre was off but the OP's experience (4-5 days/year) and skiing habits (groomers, bumps, occasional trees) didn't seemed well prepared for a backcountry 'experiment'. Maybe it was implicit but no mention of avalanche awareness or safety equipment. Anyway, to the OP, if you're for real then you're on the right track trying to re-educate yourself but don't limit it to ski tech. If you haven't already, TGR is a good compliment (?!?) to this site especially for more AT orientated enlightenment...

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I can see where you're coming from.
Because of money and time, I haven't been skiing as much as I would like, but I'm done school now, and have a steady job, so weekends are free, and money not as much of an issue. Avi level 1 course has been done.


So really, it kinda comes down to my binding choice.  Because I can get a deal on the freeride bindings for about the same cost as some decent regular price alpine ones, should I get them for the versatility of being able to do AT in the future.  But it comes down to the question of are they able to do both to an acceptable level.


I'll for sure have to see if AT is in my future.  If it isn't, then it's an easy choice.



As for the Couloir, I have heard they've softened it up compared to the Thunder.

The Sluff only comes in 174, which I think is too long for me.


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I think you need separate bindings AND skis for BC and marked resort runs.  For the price of a good new compromise set up you could get two set ups used that would be better for each.  Maybe that's just me.

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Originally Posted by Ghost View Post

I think you need separate bindings AND skis for BC and marked resort runs.  For the price of a good new compromise set up you could get two set ups used that would be better for each.  Maybe that's just me.

Agreed on the two setups and two used ones. I missed the group buy and have found nice Dynafits are tough to find used and in good condition. I am going with those bindings, as my research leads me to believe those bindings for AT gear, combined with a more burly boot like the Scrapa Mobe, will work well/fit my needs in the resort and for my trips into the side country.


OP, on your 174 length comment on the Sluffs, I really would go with those for a side country/powder orientated ski length in your shoes. I am 177cm tall and use a 190cm ski for the described purpose. Your 168cm tall, so a 174 makes all the sense in the world to me. The Sluff has a pretty good turn radius if memory serves me correctly and I have read a boatload of great reviews on that ski.

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