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K2 Public Enemy 04/05 - Good Buy..??

post #1 of 20
Thread Starter 

I've been looking for a decent, relatively low cost, all-mountain ski.  Being my usual indecisive self and can't really make up my mind whether I want to forsake cost and get something new - have been considering Volkl AC30 - or go cheaper/second hand for the start of the season.  I'm in my late-30s, intermediate/advanced, 6'1", 200 lbs, and enjoy skiing all over the mountain.  A lot of family-based skiing but sometimes get the opportunity for some guy fun!! 

 

There's a set of K2 PEs (179cm) on my local Craigslist for $250 (fitted with Salomon S912 bindings).  Seems a bit steep for a 5/6 yr old pair of skis.  Any thoughts on what a fair/reasonable price would be, and whether - if in reasonable condition - this would be a good choice.

 

Thanks for helping out!  

post #2 of 20

There are plenty of new in plastic, but several years old skis for sale.  $250 for used K2 P.E.s seems a bit  steep to me. 

post #3 of 20
Thread Starter 

Thanks - I should have said that these PEs are used.  Haven't been to look at them yet - pictures look ok - but I'm sure they'll have typical wear/tear to be epxected with that age ski.  I was thinking $125-$170 might be a more reasonable price?

post #4 of 20

I got some new in plastic for $110 shipped, 179 cm two years ago.  The older ones have an 80mm waist and are actually better for bumps, and hardpack than the newer ones I believe.  I wouldn't pay a cent over $150 used with bindings though. 

post #5 of 20

Agreed.  Not to mention the original Public Enemy...which I think this is...retailed for $299 and later $349.  Is this the Black and Gold model?

post #6 of 20
Thread Starter 

I think this was the first PE model - Black/Gold with 'Cold War' graphics on top surface; like the image below.

 

K2PE.jpg

post #7 of 20

No that was the second year.  The first year was mostly white with a similar mural.  Had the Subway and Swat Teams in New York.  A little bit of red and blue.  Same ski other than graphics though.  And yes, those were $299 retail the year they came out.  I think the year you are looking at, they sold for maybe $399 because the Fujative came out and filled the $299 price point.  All the same, $249 used with bindings is too much.  Especially considering they've probably had rails all up in their business.

post #8 of 20
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Originally Posted by abqhighlander View Post

I've been looking for a decent, relatively low cost, all-mountain ski. 

have been considering Volkl AC30 -



AC30 is a hard snow / groomer ski. If you want all mountain, they're not the place to look.

post #9 of 20

 

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Originally Posted by abqhighlander View Post

Thanks - I should have said that these PEs are used.  Haven't been to look at them yet - pictures look ok - but I'm sure they'll have typical wear/tear to be epxected with that age ski.  I was thinking $125-$170 might be a more reasonable price?


That's a better ballpark, but it still depends a lot on their condition, how many times they've been drilled, etc.  $250 is way too steep, that's for sure.

post #10 of 20

I bought a pair brand new off the shop wall for 169.  250 used is WAAAYYY too much.

post #11 of 20

I sold a pair used with binders in the spring for like $125 or so.

post #12 of 20
Thread Starter 

Thanks guys for all the advice/help. Went to see the skis and they were immaculate - barely used/no significant sign of damage wear anywhere!!  Almost too good to be true.  So I went with gut instinct and offered the guy $150, which he took; maybe still a few bucks over the top but the condition warranted that.  Just need some snow now!

post #13 of 20

That's reasonable.  S912's are a nice touch too.

post #14 of 20
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Originally Posted by FujativeOCR View Post

That's reasonable.  S912's are a nice touch too.



That's what I have on mine.  They are the ones in the image posted.  Got the bindings on eBay for about $35.00- So  I'd say we did OK.  Enjoy the new ride and welcome to EpicSki.

post #15 of 20

Good buy and a I think you'll enjoy the ski. I have a pair from a few season's ago an have enjoyed them immensely.

post #16 of 20
Thread Starter 

OK...next question.  The bindings look like they're mounted pretty centrally but I'd like to check.  does anyone have a dummies guide for measuring the position of the bindings in relation to the marking on the sidewall of the ski.  I see lots of mention of 0 to +2 for an 'all -mountain' position so would like to be able to check where the bindings are currently fitted.  Thanks. 

post #17 of 20

Put your boot in the binding, and see where the little arrows line up.  The mount point is in relation to your boot, since only the back of the binding slides.

post #18 of 20
Thread Starter 

Ok,  Having now checked, the binding is mounted in centre position - line on boot matches with 'mid sole' mark on ski wall.  Is that going to be ok for all mountain skiing?

post #19 of 20

If those Public Enemys have the same scale as the 06/07 model, which I'm looking at right in front of me, then the "Mid Sole" marking is the All-Mountain mounting point.  It's the mark furthest towards the rear of the ski yes?  The Core Center is the furthest forward you would go, for mostly Park Skiing.  It's about 7.5cm forward from the Mid Sole mark.

post #20 of 20
Thread Starter 

Fujative - you're spot on; the mid sole is the rear mark with the line on my boots matching up perfectly.  Looks like they're set up well then.  Thanks for your help.

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