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Skiing for Dummies

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Thread Starter 
I'm serious, there's a book on Amazon. It looks like it just came out this year.

I don't know, seems a bit over the top.
post #2 of 25
Well, buy it, review it and let us know if it works. As most folks on this forum would agree, you are infinately qualified....

RH
post #3 of 25
Cheap.
post #4 of 25
There is also a video called "Teach Your Child to Ski at Home".

Why would anyone want their child to ski at home???? <FONT size="1">

[This message has been edited by Lisamarie (edited September 22, 2001).]</FONT>
post #5 of 25
Ouch Rick.. not sure if that was funny or not nice, still trying to decide. I guess I'll go with both.

I've seen the book. Have not really read what's in it.<FONT size="1">

[This message has been edited by Mack (edited September 22, 2001).]</FONT>
post #6 of 25
Heh! I would say funny AND not nice. But then, these barbs tend to not be by chance . . . we reap what we sow.
post #7 of 25
Thread Starter 
Yeah, yeah.
post #8 of 25
Ya gotta know and love him to pick on him.

RH
post #9 of 25
Bob Barnes:

Just so I am clear on this issue, was there ever agreement as to the definition of "expert"? We wouldn't want anyone replying in an out of context or an unqualified fashion.

Please provide SCSA with the page number from the PSIA manual......... cause we know he's gonna want that!

Ooops!
post #10 of 25
Thread Starter 
What manual? Has someone found a manual?

Actual documentation other than "The unofficial Gang Hand Book"?
post #11 of 25
Ok - here are the ones on my shelf that PSIA commitee's either wrote, published or both:

A Ski School Directors Guide to Curriculum – NSAA, PSIA

AASI Snowboard Manual – AASI/PSIA

American Teaching System: Snowboarding – PSIA

ATS: Strategies for Teaching – PSIA

Child Centered Skiing – Dr. Rosemary Peterson & PSIA

Childrens Skiing Handbook – PSIA

Intro to Modern Ski Teaching – PSIA-W

PSIA Adaptive Manual – PSIA Edu. Staff

PSIA Alpine Handbook – PSIA Edu. Staff

PSIA Alpine Level I Study Guide – PSIA Edu. Staff

PSIA Alpine Level II Study Guide – PSIA Edu. Staff

PSIA Alpine Level III Study Guide – PSIA Edu. Staff

PSIA Alpine Manual – PSIA Edu. Staff

PSIA Childrens Instruction Manual – PSIA Edu. Staff

PSIA Pro Development Program – PSIA Edu. Staff

PSIA Trainers Work and Resource Book – Horst Abraham/PSIA

PSIA-E Training Guide for Childrens Instructors – PSIA-E

The American Teaching System: Alpine Skiing – PSIA

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And I don't have them all.

In addition the PSIA endorses and sells many many more books.
post #12 of 25
Bob, I haven't seen the "skiing for Dummies" but I do know their "Wine for Dummies" is excellent and so are their cookbooks I've read.

Bet their Skiing book is pretty good too. So we should all await with beted breath the coming of SCSA, as he decends from the mountain top to deliver the one, the only, indeed, the difinitive verdict, as only he can, upon this ummm....well....self-described stupid book of skiing....

Ah Ha Todd!! You have unwittingly fallin into SCSA's develish trap . In listing the countless pile of books one must read in order to become an expert in PSIA type skiing you have exposed theis system for the overly complicated and cumbersome system that it is. Why in Harold's sytem one need read but 2 rather smallish books to b/c an Expert

So now we know that not only is SCSA richer and better looking than the rest of us, but he is *irrefutably* smarter than the rest of us; well...smarter than Todd anyway

So SCSA, I charge you to go forth, forthwith and with haste, mighty Platinum card in hand and purchase the afformentioned tome of skiing and b/c as Dumb as the rest of us.

And then tell us about it............LOL
post #13 of 25
Only 2 books makes you an expert. Scary. You know, they now have a one day Pilates instructor "certification". So if you go take class and have not read the teachers bio be afraid, be very afraid.
post #14 of 25
Heh! Thanks Trey, best laugh I've had since 9/11!
post #15 of 25
Actually, I did read one of the 'for dummies' books. I do a lot of Project Management and I picked up the Project Management for Dummies for fun and it actually turned out to be pretty accurate and to the point. Sort of surprised me.

It looks like they actually research for those books, and just present the info in a fun way, yet very well summarized.
post #16 of 25
oops.. double post<FONT size="1">

[This message has been edited by Mack (edited September 23, 2001).]</FONT>
post #17 of 25
I looked at the book at Boarders, and it really should be retitled "Skking for those that have no idea about the skiing."

As for giving any decent instruction, it didn't have much. So if you buy it, you may have to reclassify yourself as a dumb skier who wants to learn to ski, but just bought the wrong book.<FONT size="1">

[This message has been edited by wink (edited September 23, 2001).]</FONT>
post #18 of 25
BobB,
post #19 of 25
Bob--I guess Amazon is giving it's readers both sides of the story: Harold's book for PMTS (aka skiing as the god's intended) and the "Dummies" book for PSIA (errr skiing for dummies???).............
post #20 of 25
In their tracking of what consumers purchase, everyone that buys HH's book will be presented with the dummies book.
By the way, I have not ordered either of the books or Lito's for that matter from Amazon and they keep picking HH's books as something I should buy. I have purchased the skiers edge, The athletic skier, Bob Barnes Encyclopedia, The art of carving and some other technical manuals, but Lito's books I purchased directly from him as well as his videos. Their "intelligent" software has an interesting way of deciding what to offer.
post #21 of 25
Hmmm. Olin Mk 4's and rear entry boots on the cover. I'd bet that it is an old book that has been repackaged.
post #22 of 25
This was posted on the old page:

Is this attack on HH really necessary? You have all made your points in the past. I can understand some humor, such as picking on SCSA, but you guys are going to far. Whenever HH is mentioned, Bob Barnes unloads garbage. And irul snipes. Why don't you guys grow up and try to be adults. Your credibility is slipping.
RH

There were some replies.

I was able to copy and paste all of the replies.

Supreme Big Mountain Member posted September 24, 2001 05:23 PM
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Is this attack on HH really necessary? You have all made your points in the past. I can understand some humor, such as picking on SCSA, but you guys are going to far. Whenever HH is mentioned, Bob Barnes unloads garbage. And irul snipes. Why don't you guys grow up and try to be adults. Your credibility is slipping.
RH

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Supreme Big Mountain Member posted September 24, 2001 08:12 PM
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Rick H
You are correct and sorry if some of us came off that way. By the way, I have not ordered either of the books or Lito's for that matter from Amazon and they keep picking HH's books as something I should buy. I have purchased the skiers edge, The athletic skier, Bob Barnes Encyclopedia, The art of carving and some other technical manuals, but Lito's books I purchased directly from him as well as his videos. Their "intelligent" software has an interesting way of deciding what to offer.
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SCSA
Supreme Big Mountain Member posted September 24, 2001 08:39 PM
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Yeah! What Rick H said!
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skier-x
Black Diamond Member posted September 24, 2001 09:16 PM
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I've got to agree with Rick H. I have hesitated to post here in the past because of this kind of display of childish and mean responses. Not only does it reflect in a very non-professional way on the individuals (and the organizations they represent) who post such things but as something that degrades all of ski instruction. I'm out of here.
post #23 of 25
Skiing for Dummies: Snowboarding
post #24 of 25
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/002861965X/o/qid=100185017 7/sr=2-5/ref=sr_bt_5/026-4701940-2491642

Please tell me these reviews are satirical :-

"There was absolutely no information on actually skiing - apart from maybe 3 paragraphs. I turned the page expecting to read about snowploughing, beginning parallel turns , weight transfer, but there was nothing. But for a light-hearted easy read on resorts and miscellaneous it's a must"

"Excellent book for someone who has never skied and is not used to snow activities.

All the basics are in there, not aiming to replace a real ski class. The author fully achieved the goal proposed."
post #25 of 25
My two cents regarding the "bashing of HH" are - we all LOVE to SKI including HH. Maybe he does teach gimmicks such as "rolling to the little toe side", but so what? We all LOVE to be up in the mountians, closer to god and facing the fall line.
Let's unite!
Lisa
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