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Dynamic Transfer by Dr Go

post #1 of 3
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Originally posted by Dr Go in the Notes from HH Thread


Maybe it is an example. Really we need to be on the other side of the skier and jsut at the first frame of this clip. It moves fast but that is to keep the size down for the transfer.

Can you see it? The dynamic transfer I mean?


"GO - SKI ON!"


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post #2 of 3
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some responses from the original thread included a link to the Skiing Magazine article

and From Eric himself

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Hey All,
Writing from Whistler where it snowed today and the skiing is quite good. But anyway, Great discussion and I wish I could have commented earlier but have been really busy trying to stuff a few good ski tips into 40 second spots. Crazy. It's late and Ive had a couple cocktails after a major sushi fest so take this with a grain of salt!

So...that sequence above was shot in Squaw Valley on a slope of about 45 degrees with enough room for a short to medium radius turn. The turn as Holiday pointed out was to make a pedal carve turn. The dynamics are pretty simple. Shoulders are square to the FLOW line (more or less)in a countered postion and it's a firm edge set on nice corn snow. There no real upper body rotation where the shulders swing from side to side, rather the shoulders always face the direction of travel regardless of what part of the turn.

The realease of the turn (the top frame) is done by the relaxation/retraction of the outside foot in the first photo of the sequence. This naturally pulls the upper body into the new turn (down the hill) and new inside foot leads the edge change coming in light. You can see, as some have pointed out, that the inside foot gets closer to new outside foot as the skis come onto edge.

In addtion, I would add this to the discussion: I believe that the counter body position in the top frame provides the rotary energy to draw the skis into the turn. The focus of the movment therefore is more lateraly based. Simply to get the skis onto matching edge angles as early/quickly as possible with new inside ski leading the way while staying light on the snow. No conscious steering.

Also, by taking weight off the downhill ski to trigger the transition, there is a nutaral weight trasfer to the up hill ski to provide inherent energy for it to flow into the new turn with very little active effort. It really is less effort then any up unweighting. For Ott...try this, man. Realxing your outside leg to trigger the transition is very effective, then lead the edge change with this same foot coming in light into the new turn. Your weight and balance will be centered on the outside foot where you want it. How fast you do it can be determined by your speed and turn and turn radius.

OK... out of paid for time!! Hope this makes sense and continues this discussion. Also, that I'm not going on about things you guys already know. I spent some time reviewing this today but haven't really read through in this sitting as I'm buying time on a hotel computer!! LAST 45 seconds.

Eric D.


and to read some of the responses to Eski click here

<FONT COLOR="#800080" SIZE="1">[ November 30, 2001 07:06 AM: Message edited 1 time, by dchan ]</font>
post #3 of 3
dynamic ... continuous productive activity or change.

dynamics ... mechanics that deals with forces and their relation primarily to the motion but sometimes also to the equilibrium of bodies.

Continous pressure on the skis, using both skis edges to controll the arc of the turn. An invisalbe inside arc is created by the skiers CM, kept forward or center of the ski but inside the arc of the outer ski.
The STEEP terrain, or on lesser steep the speed, allows the skier to DYNAMICLY change direction through the shift in mass while pressure to BOTH skis.(relation primarily to the motion but sometimes also to the equilibrium of bodies.) (I must say that there is a debate as to IF this is an UNWEIGHTING or not)

The side cut of the present ski technology provides for this activity in shorter radius and in more varied conditions. This side cut also provides for the ability to keep the edge engaged more through the turn. (as the ski does not become an inhibitor to the turn itself, read stiff long ski that needs to be retracted, lifted or placed into an arc, or out of the way of an arc)

Talent Like Eric, Dan and many others are able to ski smooth lines with pressure to the skis (plural, TWO skis) throught more of the turn than may have been possible before the technology of deep side cut. (of course the side cut with the core or ski material improvements)

The CARVE or ability to keep the ski in contact with the surface throught the arc, is improved. (continuous productive activity or change.)

In an effort to be CLEAR, sorry about my spelling I Just can not spell jsut!

So there is my though on it for what that is worth!

But I enjoy myself anyway!

<FONT COLOR="#800080" SIZE="1">[ November 30, 2001 07:40 AM: Message edited 1 time, by Dr.GO ]</font>
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