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Question for the Racers 155 or 165?

post #1 of 11
Thread Starter 

Hey fellow racers.  I am getting a new pair of Volkl Racetiger Speedwall SL's for use as my slalom race ski in the Adult Race League I am in. I race in the BB Veteran Class.  I am torn between getting the 155 as has been reccomended by some AA  Vet  Racers I respect or going with the shop owners reccomendation of 165.  He doesn't carry the 160 so those are my two choices.  He beleives that the 165 will be a better all around ski which I don't doubt but I do have 2 other pair of longer skis, the Racetiger RC 173 for my GS races and a pair of AC30's 170 for all mountain skiing when I am not racing.  On race days, I only bring one pair to the hill, and free ski that race ski the rest of the day. 

 

I was using a pair of Volkl P50 163 which I loved but made the mistake of sending them to a swap and they sold for more than I paid for them used 3 years ago..LOL    I have only been racing 3 1/2 seasons but an avid skier for 40 years.

 

So what do you think?  Should I go with the 155 or the 165.  Tell me why.

 

Thanks,

 

Rick G

post #2 of 11

Rick

 

I have gone back and fore between 155 and 165 for Masters racing but last year after some focused slalom training I found I was significantly quicker on the 155.  You will find that a large percentage of the older top level masters racers are on 155

post #3 of 11

^^^ He has a good point... But the best scenario is to try and  run both lengths and see which one is faster for you...

 

Is there difference between gate distance in your class,compared to some others..???

 

Me personally would go with 165/ I am 5'10" 170LBS..

 

How tall are you; Weight???

post #4 of 11
Thread Starter 

I am 5'9" and a fairly fit 195.  A couple of the AA Vet Racers I asked are all at least my size or heavier.  They seem to love the 155's and even say they don't mind free skiing on them after the races.

 

Bear in mind we are racing on smaller hills here in OH and Western NY.  Our courses aren't extremely tight, but sometimes they mess with you as you exit the flushes.  I am buying these specifically for slalom racing and will probably never use them to free ski accept after the races.  I have my other longer skis previously mentioned for GS racing and my fun days on the hill and vacations.

 

Unfortunaely I won't be able to wait and try them both.  Got to get them now while I can.  PS  I work p/t at the shop so I am getting a smokin deal!

 

I am starting to lean towards the 155.

 

Rick G

post #5 of 11

Seems like you getting the 155's... Don't get them,just because of the deal you are getting.GL.

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Originally Posted by rickg View Post

I am 5'9" and a fairly fit 195.  A couple of the AA Vet Racers I asked are all at least my size or heavier.  They seem to love the 155's and even say they don't mind free skiing on them after the races.

 

Bear in mind we are racing on smaller hills here in OH and Western NY.  Our courses aren't extremely tight, but sometimes they mess with you as you exit the flushes.  I am buying these specifically for slalom racing and will probably never use them to free ski accept after the races.  I have my other longer skis previously mentioned for GS racing and my fun days on the hill and vacations.

 

Unfortunaely I won't be able to wait and try them both.  Got to get them now while I can.  PS  I work p/t at the shop so I am getting a smokin deal!

 

I am starting to lean towards the 155.

 

Rick G


Similar to my findings Rick.  (I am getting close to your age, 5"8", 170#.   I find with the 155s it is just that much easier to change turn shape, get thru tight sets, recover from errors etc.  I have no doubt for younger, more athletic (and more skilled!) athletes the 165 has more outright potential.  And yes, even in freeskiing, no issues with teh 155s (especially if you are on smaller hills).  YMMV

post #7 of 11

I am 5' 10" 155lbs. & have a pair of 160cm's.  Volkls do measure short compared to some others.  Are you sure you couldn't order up some 160's at the same price?  Otherwise as a specialized ski, I think you will have fun on the 155's.

 

JF

post #8 of 11
Thread Starter 

If we had the 160's at the shop it would be a no brainer, but our shop owner decided to just bring in the two sizes.  He is balking about letting me do a Pro Deal as I am only p/t and I think he wants to get rid of a pair from our stock.

 

I am about 90% sure now I will go with the 155's.  They should be fun.

 

Rick G

post #9 of 11

I am in mid 50's, 5' 9" and 172 pounds.  I race in Ohio on 165's and I just sold my 155's at a recent swap shop. I prefer the 165's for one basic reason, rutted up courses.  Our club flips the start order around, so even as an "A" racer, you can  be starting last as easy as first.  On a torn up course, it was too easy to lose it on the 155's.  For me, the 165's plow through the ruts better and have more a tail to save you if you are thrown back.  Starting early, it was a toss up.  The 155's were faster on tighter courses and the 165's were faster on more open courses.  Starting later, the 165's were for the most part faster for me.  So when I purchased new gear, Rossignol Radical S (slant nose), this year, I went with 165's.  In additional, I  can generate more power on a more open gate set with the 165's because they have a stiffer flex than the the 155's.  This is the case with all manufacturers standard race stock slalom models.

post #10 of 11
Thread Starter 
The OP here. In case anyone is interested my ski size ordeal is over, but not in a way you might expect. I went in a different direction. About a month ago our Blizzard rep was giving us a clinic and picked my interest in a pair of the SLR IQ Mag's. I have always had a soft spot for Blizzards as my very first pair of skis way back in 1972 were a pair of Blizzard Specials 190 in some pretty cool for the time black and orange graphics. Guess what colors my new SLR's are? I went with the 160 length which I think is a good compromise for my original question. As Blizzard is our 2nd biggest line of skis after Volkl, I feel pretty good having a pair of Blizzards in my quiver. I hope to try them out next weekend. Our local hills are starting to open!

Rick G
post #11 of 11
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by CDR114 View Post

I am in mid 50's, 5' 9" and 172 pounds.  I race in Ohio on 165's and I just sold my 155's at a recent swap shop.


Where do you race in OH? Is it the CMSC Race Program? If so, what division are you? I am BB Vet.

Rick G
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