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PSA: Go buy the Stockli Spirit Globe (narrow version of a Stormrider VXL)

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Skied the 2010 Stockli Spirit Globe yesterday for the first time.  This ski feels every bit just like the Stormrider VXL - just a heck of a lot narrower (72mm underfoot versus 86mm for the VXL).  It has the same tenacious edge grip and power without being overly demanding.  A wonderful smooth riding ski.  Don't be put off by where Stockli positions this ski in their line-up.  They kind of give it this "intermediate" ski vibe, but it's hardly an intermediate level ski (it would probably put most intermediate skiers on their A$$ ).

 

You can still get it fairly cheap from Denver Wholesale Skis. 

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I know how you ski; what do you weigh these days?

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Don't laugh, but I still have a pair of the Stockli Spirit Pro II that was advertised at the time as an "advanced" ski.  It is a narrow version of your new skis.  It carves through any hard snow like it is butter, versatile as can be for anything outside of the powder, and can be skied slow (for teaching the kids) or fast.  Typical Stockli smooooth, and they were less than $200 when a rep blew them out on eBay a few years ago.  They prove you can build a quality ski w/o always using a wood core (the Spirit Globe is a wood core).  They do tend not to skimp on the titinal, though.


Edited by quant2325 - 10/29/10 at 12:21pm
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Don't laugh, but I still have a pair of the Stockli Spirit Pro II that was advertised at the time as an "advanced" ski.



Laugh?   No laugh.  A bunch of instructors at a teensy 600 foot resort near me used these for yonks.

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I know how you ski; what do you weigh these days?


I'm running at about 175 lbs. these days - hopefully 165 lbs. by Christmas .

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Don't laugh, but I still have a pair of the Stockli Spirit Pro II that was advertised at the time as an "advanced" ski.  It is a narrow version of your new skis.  It carves through any hard snow like it is butter, versatile as can be for anything outside of the powder, and can be skied slow (for teaching the kids) or fast.  Typical Stockli smooooth, and they were less than $200 when a rep blew them out on eBay a few years ago.  They prove you can build a quality ski w/o always using a wood core (the Spirit Globe is a wood core).  They do tend not to skimp on the titinal, though.

 

Funny you should mention the Spirit Pro II.  I was on the Spirit Pro (original version) right before slapping on the Spirit Globe.  The Spirit Pro does use the Stockli Isocore core (read that as Stockli's version of a foam core).  It's definitely softer than the Spirit Globe and maybe softer than the Spirit Pro II (from what I've read).  The Spirit Pro was having trouble hanging on in some of the harder conditions - it just didn't have the torsional strength to stay with me.  It was fun though down in the softer stuff at the lower elevations.  I keep them around as rock skis and for when I take the kids out (they're great for slow speed carving).

 

The Spirit Globe blew me away when I came down the same hard section and it didn't even blink.  Shows you just how much equipment can change the game.  Both skis were basically identical in length, binding, and mount position.  Spirit Pro is just a bit narrower and softer.  I was driving home and remembered just how much the Globes felt like my VXLs (which are 179cm).  I didn't feel any lack of stability - very confidence inspiring.  I plan on testing them out back-to-back with the VXLs at some point to confirm my observations.
 


Edited by Noodler - 10/29/10 at 9:22pm
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This is good stuff; shouldn't it be in gear reviews? 

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This is good stuff; shouldn't it be in gear reviews? 


Good point - maybe a mod will move it over.

 

Guess I'm still stuck in my old school Epic ways. 

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I definately will try the Spirit Globe. Thanks for the review.  My problem with Stockli is also what I like about them: It takes too long for them to become rock skis.  They tend to not get beat up as much as other skis, particularly the bases.

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I definately will try the Spirit Globe. Thanks for the review.  My problem with Stockli is also what I like about them: It takes too long for them to become rock skis.  They tend to not get beat up as much as other skis, particularly the bases.


No kidding.  I just finished waxing my 2005 Stormrider XLs to take them out tomorrow.  They're the oldest skis in my quiver and still going strong (so much for foam cores breaking down - of course they do have 3 sheets of titanal ).  I finally got a bit of a core shot on them last season, but it was the strangest looking core shot I have ever seen - it had surgical precision and looked like someone carved out a perfect 1/8" strip about an inch long.  It was an easy fill luckily.

 

I going to compare the old XLs to my new Globes to see how that plays out.  The XLs have to be retired someday .

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Glad to finally see some love for this ski in this forum.  I have been skiing a pair for the last three seasons, they are my go to, short radius, hard / groomed snow ski.  I echo the praise given here.  Too bad that skis this good aren't in vogue any more.  Everything hot today must be phat and "bent", good luck with those on firmer conditions. 

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So I got a chance today to run the new Stockli Globes back-to-back with the VXL.  Accounting for the fact that my VXLs are 179cm and the Globes 164cm, the Globes felt every bit as powerful, almost as stable, and a bit more energetic.  The VXLs felt a little "planky" after being on the Globes, but I think that's to be expected when going from a skinny short ski to a fatter long ski.

 

I find myself really wishing that Stockli would build a high 70s/low 80s underfoot ski with the exact same construction and a deep sidecut.  That would be my ultimate do anything ski (except for really deep days).

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Noodler, I know you've posted this before, but can't find it in a quick search of your posts: What's your weight and height? (Obviously you have me listening here. biggrin.gif )

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I'm an intermediate female, 5'9" 126 lbs and I love my Spirit Globes (164 cm). They are lively, fun and agile, great on hard groomed surface where my friends on their soft teleskis couldn't even make carved turns because they couldn't get the edges to hold at all. Skiing fast on slightly uneven surface you definitely need to stay awake and control the skis but doing that is not a problem (I'm not saying anything about skiing fast on more uneven surface - I simply don't do that :D) For about two first days I regretted buying them - having skied 150-155 cm "beginner rentals" maybe 5 days after over 15 year break from skiing- because I thought I had bought something that was too difficult for me but after that they've been great ;-)

 

On the other hand my friend (expert male - his classification, probably true 20 years ago hasn't changed his style since, maybe 5'7"and 140 lbs?) thinks they are dangerously unstable in higher speeds and can't understand how I can ski them so fast. He loves my K2 Lotta Luvs (08-09 170 cm, I bought them because they were cheap and real cute...) that I find very stable but also slightly boring and kind of... hmm... sluggish?


Edited by Skise - 11/13/10 at 11:50pm
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