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post #1 of 25
Thread Starter 

Hi everyone! I am in search of some recommendations for twin tip all mountain skis. I ride on the east coast mostly at Mountain Creek, Hunter, & Windham. I am pretty aggressive and enjoy everything from slamming some jumps in the parks to medium speed tight turns, to flying down the hill at high speeds. Obviously where i ride the conditions usually consist of groomed, hard pack, granular, and the signature ice that only the east can offer. Also, i am 5'11" and about 195lbs.

 

I originally was more or less set on the Head Peak 82 but after reading an extensive amount of reviews by forum members i am having second thoughts.

 

The other skis i was considering were the Dynastar 6th Sense Slicer and the Head Johnny 94.

 

 

Any help is appreciated as i am a little out of touch with the "best of the best".

 

 

Thanks!

post #2 of 25

I've had they Volkl Bridge for a couple of years (not this years rockered one) and i really like it. it is definately an all mountain ski. its basically an all mountain ski with twin tips thrown on the back. I live in Idaho so i cant say much about the ice performance but I've heard its good.

 

I would also recommend the Line Prophet 90

post #3 of 25
Thread Starter 

thank you for your reply. i will take a look at the equipment you have mentioned. Powder is something we really don't see often here so something that has a solid handle on icy conditions is a must.

post #4 of 25

I have the k2 public enemy... now called the extreme, which that stopped making this year.  It is still a great ski, and you can probably get a good price on it.  It does pretty well in most of eastern conditions, and its OK when its icy.  Most twin tips won't be great in the ice though. Overall its a great ski.  The 2011 salomon twenty twelve ski is supposed to have some great edge grip, as well being great in everything else... just what I've heard.  I suggest you demo some skis and see what you like.

post #5 of 25

The Volkl Bridge is an awesome Eastern All mountain ski. I ski it with the Marker Griffon binding and it handles all conditions very well, even hard pack. No twin tip will excel on ice,it just will not happen. At your size you would probably opt for the 184,any other suggestions would be welcomed .Hope this helps.   Dave

post #6 of 25
Thread Starter 

i currently ride the K2 Enemy and i do like them overall but they are not the best set of sticks i have ever owned. all the recommendations provided so far look good with each getting very good reviews.

post #7 of 25
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Daveski7 View Post

The Volkl Bridge is an awesome Eastern All mountain ski. I ski it with the Marker Griffon binding and it handles all conditions very well, even hard pack. No twin tip will excel on ice,it just will not happen. At your size you would probably opt for the 184,any other suggestions would be welcomed .Hope this helps.   Dave



Dave,

 

how are they on tight turns. i love long carved turns as much as the next guy but my favorite is cutting really tight turns while riding the edge of the trails...how do they handle?  how about medium turns at a descent cruising speed? last question (did i mention i really appreciate your input) how stable are they at high speeds? sometimes i like to face strait down the hill and go.

 

Thanks again!!


Edited by FB User (Private) - 10/27/10 at 4:19am
post #8 of 25

Joe,

If you are looking at Dynastar I think you would be better off with the Distorter at 87' under foot. Is there a reason that you want a twin tip? From what you are describing on what you like to ski I think you may be better off with an all mountain carver like a Blizzard 8.1 as long as your not landing switch off the jumps in the park. If you do want a twin that is still kind of burly to let run you can also look at something like the Fischer Addict Pro. If you want to go wider the Bridge would be a good option at 95' under foot. 

post #9 of 25

If you are looking at this years Bridge I cannot comment because it is a completely different ski(rockered,etc. I have last years which is 92 under foot. It is pretty turny for a ski this size but it is not a carving ski. As I mentioned it works well in all conditions except ice but no twin will. Really good edge grip as it is a Volkl.There is also no metal so there are other skis that will be more stable at top end speeds but I have been cooking on them and are very stable.You would definitely be satisfied overall with them however.  Hope this helps again.  Dave

post #10 of 25
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Originally Posted by Joe Becker View Post


The other skis i was considering were the Dynastar 6th Sense Slicer and the Head Johnny 94.


I highly recommend the Head John 94.  It's a great do everything ski, light and easy to ski in all conditions but also skis amazingly well at speed.  It's a ski that both free riders and ex racers would be happy on.

post #11 of 25

If you do decide to get new skis i would be interested in You PE's if the ski is right and the condition of the skis.  Let me know. Thank You,

post #12 of 25
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Originally Posted by NESkiBum View Post

Joe,

If you are looking at Dynastar I think you would be better off with the Distorter at 87' under foot. Is there a reason that you want a twin tip? From what you are describing on what you like to ski I think you may be better off with an all mountain carver like a Blizzard 8.1 as long as your not landing switch off the jumps in the park. If you do want a twin that is still kind of burly to let run you can also look at something like the Fischer Addict Pro. If you want to go wider the Bridge would be a good option at 95' under foot. 


 

I sometimes like to land switch although far and few between so the twin tip is kinda required. The Distorter looks like another great ski. I appreciate the input and post.


Edited by FB User (Private) - 10/27/10 at 4:48pm
post #13 of 25
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Daveski7 View Post

If you are looking at this years Bridge I cannot comment because it is a completely different ski(rockered,etc. I have last years which is 92 under foot. It is pretty turny for a ski this size but it is not a carving ski. As I mentioned it works well in all conditions except ice but no twin will. Really good edge grip as it is a Volkl.There is also no metal so there are other skis that will be more stable at top end speeds but I have been cooking on them and are very stable.You would definitely be satisfied overall with them however.  Hope this helps again.  Dave

 

Thanks Dave. i appreciate the follow up post. I have been reviewing all the suggested skis and plan on researching them further tonight. so many really good options available.

post #14 of 25
Thread Starter 

Well i stopped at 2 different local ski shops and asked for their recommendations while providing the same information i did on here. Both went directly over to the Line Prophet 90. They both also recommended the Marker Griffon binding.

 

As of right now i have narrowed it down to the Line Prophet 90 and the Dynastar Distorter.

 

I also am a bit torn now which set of bindings i want to rock with. I am between the Marker Griffon and the Marker Jester.

 

 

post #15 of 25

You probably don't need the jester. The Griffons work great for most people

post #16 of 25
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Originally Posted by Downhillin99 View Post

You probably don't need the jester. The Griffons work great for most people



understood. i am not even really sure the difference between each as the specs seem very similar. i have to do a bit more research.

 

Thanks!!

post #17 of 25



 

Quote:
Originally Posted by Daveski7 View Post

If you are looking at this years Bridge I cannot comment because it is a completely different ski(rockered,etc. I have last years which is 92 under foot. It is pretty turny for a ski this size but it is not a carving ski. As I mentioned it works well in all conditions except ice but no twin will. Really good edge grip as it is a Volkl.There is also no metal so there are other skis that will be more stable at top end speeds but I have been cooking on them and are very stable.You would definitely be satisfied overall with them however.  Hope this helps again.  Dave


I too have been looking around for a good "mid-fat" type ski for the east.  Something with a bias more towards soft snow, trees and 6" powder days, but still able to hold an edge when needed on the hardpack.  There's been some other helplful discussions on this list discussing such skis with widths in the 85 to 88 range.  But I have been wondering also how the new Volkl Bridge with a 95 waist might be for such conditions.  Just as important though is this, if one had a pair of Gotamas for those deeper days, are the Bridges somewhat redundant in that there is not that much difference between the two?  By the way, I am hoping to do a number of demos early this season to see for myself how these and some other models ski, but was wondering if anyone could provide some thoughts too.

 

Thanks

post #18 of 25
Thread Starter 

Well i threw down a deposit on a set of Prophet 90's and Marker Griffon bindings. Really looking forward to strapping these on to my feet. Once again thank you for all of your help.

post #19 of 25


 

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how are they on tight turns. i love long carved turns as much as the next guy but my favorite is cutting really tight turns while riding the edge of the trails...how do they handle?  how about medium turns at a descent cruising speed? last question  how stable are they at high speeds? sometimes i like to face strait down the hill and go.

 

Thanks again!!

That was some of the stuff I did today at Killington on a new pair of 179 cm Line P-90, You will like them. Me 6' 205lbs, tight turns, medium, long turns, things were great, felt totally confident with edge grip, plowed thru some little sugar snow piles from scraped off groomers, were a little stiff in some bumps that were available but its early in the year for me.You are going to have fun on these skis.
 

post #20 of 25
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Originally Posted by Joe Becker View Post

Hi everyone! I am in search of some recommendations for twin tip all mountain skis. I ride on the east coast mostly at Mountain Creek, Hunter, & Windham. I am pretty aggressive and enjoy everything from slamming some jumps in the parks to medium speed tight turns, to flying down the hill at high speeds. Obviously where i ride the conditions usually consist of groomed, hard pack, granular, and the signature ice that only the east can offer. Also, i am 5'11" and about 195lbs.

 

I originally was more or less set on the Head Peak 82 but after reading an extensive amount of reviews by forum members i am having second thoughts.

 

The other skis i was considering were the Dynastar 6th Sense Slicer and the Head Johnny 94.

 

 

Any help is appreciated as i am a little out of touch with the "best of the best".

 

 

Thanks!

 

If you are looking for a more laid-back ski that is pretty relaxed and a ski that doesn't want a lot of drive, then the Slicer is great.  If you are more aggressive, pressuring the tip, skiing dynamically, then The One from Blizzard is definitely worth a look. The Johnny 94 falls somewhere in the middle: not as responsive as The One, but a bit more ski at the tip than the Slicer, which is a really flowy, round turn, let the turn come to you type of ski.
 

post #21 of 25

now, heres something i can help with. i know windham and hunter like the back of my hand. i've skied in both places for years.....

look for a 2 yr old pair of line prophet 90's, you'll thank me. 

post #22 of 25

wow, only read dawgs post, it seems that you've already agreed with me.

post #23 of 25
Thread Starter 

yea the Prophets were the way to go for my style anyway.

post #24 of 25

90 under foot covers most situations pretty well from foot deep powder to even icy conditions for me also. The Slicers are a little wide to hold a very good edge on really hard snow anywere near as good as 90 or less. The Slicer would be more a west ski in my opinion if i only had one pair and skiped the icy days at 98 under foot. You could get away with them maybe but youll have more fun on the 90,s overall on harder days and groomed for cranking turns.

post #25 of 25

Hi, 

I'm looking for all mountain twin tips too. I'm 6'2" and about 75kg, and finally wanting to buy my first skis now I've stopped growing and its more cost effective than renting! 

I'd say my needs are: 

Piste 55% 
Powder 35% 
Park 10% 

So I'm looking for a ski that will hold an edge well and is capable of turning in a nice tight radius; is stable at high speeds; has a wide enough waist to float in the powder and is flexible enough for a bit of fun in the park, but not lacking stiffness to still rip the groomers. I'm a pretty aggressive skiier too, at an advanced level wanting to progress to expert! 

So far, my pretty extensive research as given the following skis as the best bets (my budget is 500 including bindings) 

Line Prophet 90/Prophet Flite 
Salamon Lord (despite being only a semi twin tip) 
Line Chronic Cryptonite 
Scott Punishers 

I also looked at the K2 Kung Fujas but though at over 100mm waist they're bound to lose edge grip on the groomers? 

Any advice, opinions, previous experience and recommendations would be much appreciated! 

Thanks, 
Sam

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