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Need New Intermediate Skis for an easten skier

post #1 of 12
Thread Starter 

I am an intermediate skier, and started skiing in High School through Ski Club. I am looking to purchase a new pair of skis, and I am having trouble finding a pair that will suit my needs.

 

I am a bigger guy at 6'1'' and 250lbs, and I am not sure whether I should get 170cm or 177cm skis.

 

I mainly ski on the groomers, but will venture into moguls, or some bumps/off trail terrain. However, i do ski out East, and I probably ski 95% on groomed trails.

 

I have been looking at some 2009 skis (with bindings), which fit in my budget of $500. I liked the K2 Sidewinders, but cannot find them new with bindings anywhere for less than $500. I am now thinking about the Volkl AC20, AC30, and I am open to any suggestions. I am hoping to purchase these skis ASAP, so any responses will be extremely helpful.

 

Also, if i go with a stiffer ski I would go shorter like a 170cm, and if i get a more forgiving ski i would probably go longer like a 177cm, correct?

 

Thanks again......

post #2 of 12

At your size, a 177 would be the absolute minimum for any ski but folks on this board will undoubtably tell you to go longer than that.

post #3 of 12

You'd do well with a 180+ but your not going to get smited for skiing a 177 obviously. Im your size minus 100 pounds i have 188 k2 flights so dont get hung up about that. Just for groomed skiing on the east coast, you cant go wrong with k2's. Don't know much about Volkls from experience, but in any event most of the market will be fine for your needs. Size price and quality is what i'd go with.

post #4 of 12

At 250 lbs you need something that can turn you, not skis that are very soft and forgiving.

Go for 175 cm and up. 

Look for skis that are a couple of years old, between 66 and 70 mm at the waist.

Any head skis that have SW in the name should work.

AC30 isn't a bad choice.

also consider from  e-bay:

http://cgi.ebay.ca/180-cm-Atomic-Double-Deck-D2-Vario-Cut-72-skis-binding-/270654267896?pt=Skiing&hash=item3f044061f8

post #5 of 12

Just an FYI ... if the 2009 K2 Sidewinder is what you are looking for, you can get a good deal on the flat skis (no bindings) at evogear.com

 

The skis are at $369.90, but they have a 30% off promo right now on any 2009 gear, so that puts the flat skis at $258.93.  When I last checked, there was only 1 pair of 177cm left.  You should have no problem finding good bindings and having them installed well within your budget. 

 

Hope that helps!

post #6 of 12
Thread Starter 

Thanks for all the help.

 

I have seen the Sidewinder flat skis, but someone at the local ski shop told me that i cannot put any bindings on them, and that i would have to find the Marker MX12.0 integrated binding system that fits that ski. It is impossible to find that binding system. Was I told incorrect information? Can i put any ski binding on those flat skis?

post #7 of 12

Ghost hits it right on the head. 

 

K2 would not be my first choice for eastern hard pack groomers.

German / Austrian skis generally handle eastern hard pack (ice) a bit better.

post #8 of 12

FISCHER RX8, ATOMIC SOMKE TI are skis to look at. Buy long, ask about binding upgrade ( you are at weight limit of many bindings).

post #9 of 12
Thread Starter 

I have narrowed my choices down, and I really like the Volkl AC30's. I am looking to get them in a 177, my only concern is that they will be too stiff? I only ski out east, and I just want to make sure i get this purcahse right.

post #10 of 12

Take a good look at your boots. Make sure it's a good fit. If it's not done by a good boot fitter, it's probably a size or two too big.

The AC30 is a real sweet clean pair of skis.Rewards good technique. Good edge hold. Will torque your boots around if they don't fit properly.   

 

With your stated physical attributes - the 177 is definitely not too stiff. It may not be enough ski.

Especially if you ski 95% groomers and ski aggressively.

You can even go up to 184 with no issues, Just keep weight forward. Sitting back on the ski is what makes it feel stiff and tough to turn.

Most intermediate skiers tend to sit a bit back. A lesson here and there will clean up the technical issues. 

 

While the 184 will hold it together better at high speed if your technique is not perfect.

The 177 will require you to ski with a bit more finesse without overloading at top speed. May make you a more sensitive skier.

So your choice depends on what kind of skier you want to be.

Personally I'm a short ski guy, but I would still go with the 184 for you.

 

BTW, a friend of mine @ 5'10", #150 tracks a pair of 170 cm thru the tight bumps @ Killington with no issues.  

post #11 of 12

 

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Originally Posted by MikeGib View Post

I have narrowed my choices down, and I really like the Volkl AC30's. I am looking to get them in a 177, my only concern is that they will be too stiff? I only ski out east, and I just want to make sure i get this purcahse right.



A lot of people like the AC30s.  I am not one of them, but this may just be a personal preference issue.  They are fairly stiff.

 

Skis I liked more:

 

Dynastar Contact Cross/4x4 (Cross more frontside bias, 4x4 more of an all-mountain)

Head SuperShape Magnum (more frontside, new 'Titan' model may be more all-mountain)

Fischer Progressor 8+/9+

Head Peak 78/82 (used to be the 'Monster' line if you are looking for reviews)

 

It really, really helps to demo things before you buy.

 

Edit: forgot to mention that I wouldn't worry too much about the length.  I'm 6'6", 260, and I'm currently on Dynastar Contact LTDs from a couple years ago at 178, and I just got new 2011 Progressor 9s@175.  Look for skis with a layer or two of metal -- they'll be plenty stiff in the 175-180 range for you.

post #12 of 12
Mike-

I am 6ft 200Lbs, and I got the Volkl AC30 in 177cm.

They will be used on the East coast until I can arrange a move back to Colorado...
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