OK, looks like we would need to update our ski trip rig (which is also our family car), and we have a bit of an issue... Our current car is 5 speed, and I made a mistake of teaching my wife (who drives it daily) how to drive a manual, so now she likes it and refuses to drive anything else. So far we have been happy with our Honda CRV, but now I looked at every 4WD car and all of them are automatics (yeah, I know that automatics today are not the same as they were 10 years ago, good luck making that argument...). So my question is whether anyone knows a mid-size SUV/crossover that you can get with a steck-shift. 4WD is a must. I am laos not a fan of the american cars, so I am looking either at a European car or a Japanese car. My feeling is that whatever we end up getting will need to be special ordered, but so far I have not seen anything at all, even Subaru Outback is an automatic only.