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Just bought a Swinx tuning kit for $100 seems like a good deal. I have a couple questions?

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Just bought this from http://www.sierratradingpost.com/Product.aspx?baseno=1869T&cdf=SimilarProduct 

for $104 with promo code. I know the wax is not well suited but all in all I thought this was a good deal.

 

Few questions what items should I purchase to go with this. Bevel tool Gummie stone Diamond stone and P-tex. Other then mentioned is there any items you can't live without??  

Thanks

John


Edited by Temple67 - 10/20/10 at 1:47pm
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Few questions what items should I purchase to go with this. Bevel tool Gummie stone Diamond stone and P-tex. Other then mentioned is there any items you can't live without??  

Thanks

John



It comes with a side edge bevel tool but you should get a set of Diamond stones to go with it; coarse, medium and fine.  Search on this site and you'll find plenty of opinions on this.  Remember to sort through whether the person posting is a serious racer, fanatic or just has OCD.  You probably won't need the file that comes with it.  The file is primarily used for setting the edges and I strongly recommend you have that done at a good ski shop.  Make sure that the side edge they set matches the side edge tool you have or get a different one.  Also make sure the stones you get fit the bevel tool.  Should be able to find plenty of info at the swix site.

 

Gummie is always good. 

 

I'm guessing the brush is a nylon one so you might want to get a brass and horse hair.  I used a grill brush for a year or two as the brass brush.  Works fairly well but replaced it because I; found a good deal on a ski specific one, and it was fairly small.

 

Ptex is only for repairs and needs practice to get right.  Also needs more tools so I would put that off for awhile.

 

There's another thread here on how to sharpen your scraper.  You can spend 25 cents or 250 dollars; the choice is yours.  It looks like the side edge beveler you're getting can give you 90 deg so you can use it with the file to sharpen the scraper.

 

With the vise you're getting, you might find that you need to secure your skis for waxing better than just sitting the skis on top (top sheet down).  When I used similar vises I used cord to secure the toe and heel binding to the vises.  Kept them from moving around.

 

You can get an inexpensive oven thermometer or IR thermometer to check the temp of your iron.  Even though it is a ski specific iron, it does vary a bit and the dial is that accurate (I think I have the same iron).  Once you know how it performs you're fine.  You don't have to do it all the time.

 

The wax you got would be good to saturate your skis with.  Find a good deal on wax that fits your needs and get more.  If you aren't racing or don't have a desire to be the fastest person on the mountain, using an all temp universal wax is fine.  It is also WAY BETTER than doing nothing.

 

Don't forget to obsessively read all the posts on how to tune and watch all the videos.  I find tuning therapeutic and my tuning shop dubbed the "halfass ski shop" by my friends has grown quite a bit and keeps me in beer through the winter.

 

Everyone has their preferred method for tuning and most all of them work.  There are some basics to follow and you'll find plenty of info at this site to get you going.  Remember that heat is an enemy of the ski so you have to be very careful with the iron.

 

Have fun,

 

Ken

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I bought a kit last fall so I can tell you what I personaly found useful as a begining tuner. (still am a beginner)

 

Most of which is echoed above.

At least a diamond stone to follow the file

Gummy for removing rust spots and other things

Binding ties - I ditched the expensive ski specific ones.  I got a big bag of giant rubber bands from an office supply store for like $1.50.  Work like a charm and if it pops off and flies across the room, I don't have to go look for it.  LOL

Lots of extra wax to practice with.  I spent a lot of time with an old pair of skis with broken bindings just practicing.  I don't touch my good sticks without trying it several times on the broken ones first.

I picked up a full set of brushes stiff nylon, horsehair, brass, and soft nylon. 

I opted not to get a scraper sharpener.  I use a jig and sandpaper.  Seems to work just fine for me.

 

Oh, and again.  Read every thread and watch every video.  Helped me a lot.

 

I'd also give a shameless plug to Dr. D at Racewax.com  He spent a lot of time with me on email helping me get just what I need, not too much overkill, changing packages to fit my needs, and even wrote on the packages how and in what order to use what.  Total top notch!

 

My Ski buddy laughed at me starting to do this myself.  Untill I skied with him last year.  He no longer laughed.

 

This year, I'm looking at picking up some more different stones and maybe a true bar.

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Guys thanks for the indepth answers! It is a big help. I have a question why would I need multiple brushes?? I am a little confused as to why and when I would sharpen my scraper?? 

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Guys thanks for the indepth answers! It is a big help. I have a question why would I need multiple brushes?? I am a little confused as to why and when I would sharpen my scraper?? 



- Other brushes will be  a) better for other structures b) better for pre-wax cleaning c) better with other waxes d) more comfortable for the lots and lots of brushing you will want to do e) a direct replacement for that one as it wears out and the bristles bend out just like on your old tooth brush.

 

- Whenever you want to or when you notice that your scraper is skipping over and leaving patches of unscraped wax that you have to go back and dig and scrape at/poke at separately,  whichever comes first.

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Just to be clear when people say sharpen a scraper its not like sharpening a knife. All you are doing is putting a nice square and smooth edge on the scraper. I think most people just run it over some medium grit sandpaper a few times while holding it against something that will keep the scraper square to the sandpaper. Just make sure the sandpaper is on a perfectly flat surface A file works well also. There are more expensive ways to do it, but this works for most and if you do this on a regular basis it will take a lot less effort to scrape the wax off.

 

-Joe-

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