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Boot canting wedges vs sole planing

post #1 of 4
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Could some of you help me understand why there is not more use of canting wedges between boot sole and lifter vs planing the boot sole?  Boot sole planing is more labor intensive.  It is very costly.  And adjustments later are always expensive and time consuming.


Surely the inserted canting wedge is more precise in establishing the desired degree of canting.  Routing the boot/binding interface is necessary in either approach.  And again, I am talking about wedges on the boot not wedges under the binding.  Cantology.com has an excellent review comparing canting approaches.


Can someone explain/educate?



post #2 of 4

biggest problem is 1 cost and 2 we have all got a planner and can use it, cantology is new for this season and whilst it solves a problme with soles like the new lange RS etc it is easier to plane the sole to what i want...one other factor is that when we deal with racers every mm is crucial and adding a shim however thin makes staying within regulations a bit harder

post #3 of 4

yes it seems like a magic bullet, especially if you ski on a Lange or a Rossi that has removable soles. i have used the cantology wedges and they are a good product. we will be adding these cant strips to our business this season and at times they will be the method of choice.


for solid soled boots, it is not nirvana. you still need a jointer to true up the sole before you even assess for static cant measurements. if you have to true up the bottom of the boot, then you need a belt grinder to re-true your toe and heel spring. then you still need to invest in lift plates as well as the cost of the cantology plates. thats double the cost to the shop, so guess what, that will mean double the cost to the end user. putting a cant shim under the lift plate is not new technology. this process has been used for years by the factory reps and qualified boot guys. it is a great tool when changing cant angles after a boot has already been done. it works because when you add any more height to a boot that has already been canted with cant material, or slices of cut up hotel keys, etc, you can then nip the toe, and heel height back to square and the DIN height and off you go. although for FIS athletes the boot height still has to be 43mm max height.


i do have to correct your statement that using cant wedges takes less time. it takes more steps and and is actually a bigger project then using a jointer and then plating the sole. the accuracy in either method is only as good as the person doing the work. agree that it is expensive, and if done well usually time consuming.


the cant wedges serve a purpose for helping to get shops that do not currently have the knowledge or tooling to be able to do cant work. they simply need to invest in the cant wedges and a plunge router and they are off to the races. i will say that without the other tools like a jointer and a belt sander with an angle guide, the quality of the work will be suspect at best.


part of why this whole canting thing remains so high priced is the knowledge that goes into the whole process, and the responsibility that the shop is taking on to do that work. as a business owner that takes pride in the quality of product that we deliver, i am all in favor of home spun work and fly by boot canting by unqualified shops. this will only increase the value of our process, and our tooling.


there are plenty of places in our area to get bad cant work done. we fix/alter cant work done by our competitors locally, regional race reps, and european factories. we charge $195.00 to get your boot sole trued, alignment assessed, plane the angle into your boot or use cant plates between the lifter and the boot, lift the sole to required height, plunge router the top of the boot sole, and deliver a product that is accurate and performs well in your bindings. we also advise all of our clients to purchase and use cat tracks to preserve the integrity of the boot sole.


value of service is in the eye of the beholder. if you can find a better way to get those services for less money, what argument could possibly be made? it is a free market.



post #4 of 4
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Thanks so much for the educational review.  I posted this question after having a bad experience getting some boot work done while out of town this last weekend.  Once again the bootfitter is the common denominator.  I wondered about the canting wedge as a solution after having my boot soles messed up. 


Once again I am convinced that there is no replacement for the Master Bootfitter.  Thanks for the input Jim.

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