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What should I tell her to do?

post #1 of 23
Thread Starter 
My latest girlfriend has never skied but she is a gamer and says she will try anything once - one of the reasons she is my girlfriend. She going to come along on our group's annual week-long trip next year. She's 33 and athletic. What do I have her do to make it a good experience and try it more than once?

post #2 of 23
Hey, congrats on the new GF! I remember the break up with the other one.

One word: LESSONS! Do NOT try to teach her yourself! Ask around first and find out who the best teacher is at the resort.

Afterwards, make time for apres, and I don't mean at the bar! You want her to associate skiing with good........ [img]smile.gif[/img]
post #3 of 23
Let her sleep in and do the afternoon sessions.
post #4 of 23
Ok heres my thoughts on this. First take her to ski somewhere skiing for a weekend with out the group. This way she gets some feel for the sport and without feeling like shes holding the group up.Get her in a class and do as Lisamarie says don't ever try and teach her yourself!I've seen way to many fights, tears, and couples screaming at each other over some guy attempting to teach his girlfriend or wife how to ski.I don't even try to give my wife advice or tips. Even when she ask Me I just say "Hon your doing fine." Boy did it take me a long time to learn that lession! After her lession free ski with her.There nothing better then spending time on skis with someone you care about even if it's just a few runs on the Bunny Hill.
post #5 of 23
Not making fun, since I am the queen of typos, but I hope you meant lesson and not lession! [img]smile.gif[/img]

[ May 10, 2002, 03:55 PM: Message edited by: Lisamarie ]
post #6 of 23
as has been stated, PLENTY OF ROOM and NO PRESSURE. everything aimed at "success," with no notions of failure. make it a win-win proposition. and really, to repeat (all of this is worth repeating), do NOT put her in a position, as utah said, where she feels even remotely like she's holding people up.
good luck.
post #7 of 23
I have to second, or third, get her in ski school, even most instructors won't tackle a significant other. We tend to expect to much and then get upset when we're dissappointed. There goes the relationship.
post #8 of 23
Queen of Typos meeet The King of typos
post #9 of 23
Take her skiing at least once before the big ski week with your friends. Several times would be better. With just you and not a group.

Has she ever spent a whole day in the winter on a mountain before? If not, check that she is dressed warmly enough. **It's the cold that makes most women give up skiing!!!** Get her bundled up so that she looks overdressed in your eyes. On the slopes, when she mentions the cold, that means she REALLY is cold. Sweep her inside for 10 minutes.

And finally, the rest room. It takes time. It just does. We don't take naps in there, we are actually rushing. There are many layers to deal with. While waiting, do not think that you can dash off a run and be back before she emerges. You can't. You will spend the rest of the day looking for eachother. She will not be amused.

[ May 10, 2002, 06:28 PM: Message edited by: WhosThatGirl ]
post #10 of 23
You don't need the "big resort" to introduce her to skiing before the shared trip with others. There are lots of places near Milwaukee where you can get her into a ski school several times before your main outing.
post #11 of 23
You are getting some really good advice on this one, but I think Kneale and someone else touched on going out to a small area, locally first. This will give her an idea of what to expect, and a much desired head start, prior to going with the group.

And undoubtedly- don't try to teach her yourself!
That is without a doubt, a major recipe for disaster! You may want to consider finding her a female instructor to show her the initial steps.

And certainly make sure she is warm, and LOOKS GOOD! Come on ladies! You know that looking good is almost as important as being warm! It improves confidence, and therefore, performance. Guys are no different, but to us, it's our equipment. Do you ever ski better than when you are on new skis?

Set her up, buff her out with great gear, and show her that enjoyment can happen at ANY level of competence!

Hope you both have a great trip!!!

post #12 of 23
I agree 100% with all the suggestions here...the one about warmth was an excellent one, as it's often forgotten, and women do seem to run slightly colder than guys. Maybe even some of those little burning bag handwarmers...they can be quite comforting, too.

If you do go for a pre-trip weekender to a local hill (if you have any), be really cautious about the terrain you take her on. For a beginner, everything can be scary, and if she gets scared, it'll take a long time to undo that.
Lesson with someone other than yourself is vital - being confident in her ability to stop and turn will help stave off the dreaded fear.

I get far too many ladies whose menfolk have taken them somewhere that scared them, and I have a suspicion that the vestiges of that fear will remain part of their skiing psyche for years.
post #13 of 23
Teach her yourself. If your relationship can stand the acid test of this experience then to paraphrase Morpheous in the Matrix "SHE IS THE ONE." :

Seriously, to this day (14 years later) my wife brings up various episodes of crying on the slopes of several resorts around the country. ("No honey, Snowbird is not entirely an expert mountain....") Even if your relationship survives, it is not worth the years of ammunition you just provided! I agree with the above. Spend the money on equipment,a cute outfit, and lessons. Ski on the other face of the mountain and meet her for lunch and drinks afterward. On the last day take some runs together(DO NOT INSTRUCT )and compliment her improvememt. Follow this formula and your next post in five years may be "what should I do with my little one?." [img]tongue.gif[/img]
post #14 of 23
Take her to Devil's Head. Lots of long flat runs with barely a hint of steep.
That's where Jeremy and Shannon Nobis learned to ski.
post #15 of 23
I only decided that my SO/now wife and I would be remotely compatable after I spent a week canoeing with her. When she didn't complain after a week in the snow on the Allagash River in April, right after the thaw, I figured she'd be OK.

If you have to coddle and nurse a woman on a ski trip ..... figure what the rest of your time will be like.

Oh! Be sure to check her for good teeth and child bearing hips too!

[ May 11, 2002, 07:31 AM: Message edited by: yuki ]
post #16 of 23
If you do insist on being a nurturing soul:

Invest in a good pair of ski socks for her.

Take her to get her boots fitted by someone you know and trust and in that pair of socks you just bought her.

More people are turned off to skiing because they are having a problem with boots. Make sure that she preps right when putting her boots on and make sure that she keeps all of that "extra" stuff out of the boot, like the snow cuff etc.

Buy her an hour private with a woman instructor before you take the "big trip". Make it a very "low key" event ...... a casual ski day, and have a mind set that you are relaxed and aren't there to log vertical. Most beginning skiers feel a lot of pressure that they are "holding you back", I just tell them that I get to do this all of the time and that I just enjoy a day on the hill, on a green run or whatever....

When/if you get her to the top, be sure to stop and enjoy the view. Look for soaring hawks and other "senic" stuff.
post #17 of 23
If you go to Devil's Head stop in Prairie du Sac and watch the Eagles fishing in the Wisconsin River. A large pecentage of the Midwest flock winters there.
post #18 of 23
All good suggestions.

Definitely get some lessons at the local Mt. Trashmore, before you go for the week.

When you get to the destination resort for the week long trip, I like the idea of putting her in morning lessons, meeting for lunch, then making a few runs together so that you can compliment her on how much she has learned. This way, you get to ski hard all morning, and if you get a powder day, you won't have to miss the goods. Then a few drinks and a hot tub wouldn't be a bad idea.

As far as teaching family members, while my wife has had a few formal lessons, she generally like to ski with me and take tips from me. When this first started, I made a disclaimer to her that said that I was going to treat this as a lesson, and that she shouldn't take anything personally. I may repeat myself a lot, or my voice may get loud, but it's only because it's a lesson and I want her (as any student) to learn. No, I don't think she's dumb, and I don't think she didn't hear me the fist (12) times. I just repeat things to reinforce them so that sh doesn't have to think about them.

This has worked out pretty well, and she takes instruction from me (what little I give to her) very well. It's sort of a slow route to learning, but we've been together 14 years (married 10 years next week), and she now skis better than half of our ski school, and really enjoys skiing. (FYI, when we met, she had only skied once in her life, and six months after we started dating, I moved to Summit County CO for the winter). She also takes instruction from my ski instructor friends very well. Usually just tips here and there during a run or two.

It also makes a big difference to get her on decent equipment!!!! Especially boots that fit right! Don't let her get in some really cheap, loose fitting, rear entry rentals!
post #19 of 23
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the input and suggestions. Going to Devil's Head sounds like a good deal to prep for the trip. The tip on clothing and ski socks could be a life saver.

I will give progress reports.

LisaMarie, thanks for remembering.

post #20 of 23
Last bit of advice, I promise, since someone wisely mentioned socks.

She may need 2 pairs of ski socks: a thin wicking sock (Ultimax) and a thick wool sock. I still wear 2 pairs of socks. Everyone insists I only need one pair (this seems to be a particularly strong, vocal opinion for some reason), but I've tried it, and I'll get cold feet. Two pairs of socks and life is good. [img]smile.gif[/img]

Edit: I think there are now synthetics which work even better than wool for the 2nd (outer) sock. I just happen to have wool.

[ May 13, 2002, 01:31 PM: Message edited by: WhosThatGirl ]
post #21 of 23
Once Fall arrives:
Clothing (the layers for warmth & breatheabili-
ty)...and buy her lots of mountain time!(with lessons!)
...and I might stop out to have her try
on some boots now & then...to have her try to
get the feel for what skiboots feel like...then
IF you do find a good fit...go for the bootfitter
as soon as you can in the Fall...if she could get
going with a great fitting pair of boots early!...? Well..I might step aside here for more experienced views!!! on whether to buy early.... :
This summer see if she'd be into biking and/or
inline skating...and/or the exercise routine(s)...*see LisaMarie for this one. [img]smile.gif[/img]

post #22 of 23
Some of this will depend a bit on her personality, but here are some of the things I found frustrating as a near-beginner skiing with much better friends/my SO:

Walking in ski boots is painful & difficult. Make sure you aren't always 6 ft ahead of her waiting for her to catch up. Same applies to walking down steps in boots carrying skis. If you can manage it, carrying her skis for her might lead to undying love.

Ditto for poling. This is a skill which takes time to develop although you think it's easy. I always felt left behind & out of breath.

Every slope looks difficult. You might not even notice a tiny patch of ice or a slightly steeper bit on the green slope but she will. Don't dismiss her fears.

If you can, try and arrange the afternoon's skiing so she can give up at almost any time and get a lift down. It is tremendously reassuring to know that skiing is optional. Even though she's athletic, don't forget learning to ski is hard work.

Never be in the SLIGHTEST danger of missing the last lift. However long you think it will take to get back to the chair, it will take twice as long and there's nothing worse than being rushed when you feel tired & incompetent. This is the only thing that has ever led to tears in our partnership.

Don't make her do runs she doesn't feel up to, even if you KNOW she's done them in ski school. That's the job of the ski instructor.

Oh yes, and what everyone else said about ski school.
post #23 of 23
Another thought, Arcmiester is right near you. Oconomowoc I think. You might PM him.
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