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Girly noob but not a gapper, needs some gear help.

post #1 of 14
Thread Starter 

Greetings all....


B in the D, I learned to ski tele. Like, 25 years ago. I was never better than a good green.


Life goes on, now I want to ski so as to not hate winter as much as I usually do.


Took some lessons at Butternut, then a nice 3 hour private lesson at Sugarbush, wherein I tested the patience of a VietNam vet.


Incredible instructor, but dang if I didn't trust my skis. Oh, and did the "look all the way down the mountain and freak out" thing, but that's better now.


Anyway...I'm 5'3" and built curvy. Va-va-va-voom as they would say. So, nice low and wide center of gravity. 150 pounds.


I have a pair of Origins, 144s, integrated bindings, but dang if they aren't a bit too fast for me. Got fitted for some boots, which

are nice and flexy for a beginner and I can wear all day long.


When my instructor questioned the ski, he had me switch out for some real beginner shorties. Huge difference in my confidence level.


So...I want to buy for this season. I expect to spend around 20-25 days on the snow, Mt. Snow, with some weekends at Sugarbush. My goal would be to be comfortable/confident at the edge of the skis "speed limit" on the less challenging blues by the end of the season. I'm 50. I will not be hucking off ANYTHING. I will not even think about woods or bump runs.


My goal is to become a confident and dynamic skier at speed on easier to intermediate runs, and to be able to ski for the day.

Frontside groomers all okay with me. I am NOT looking to make captain by midnight. It's the journey and the challenge!

Also, I have two young boys and I teach high school in the inner city. Broken bones not conducive to that sort of thing.


What would you pick for me? Can I ski a junior length? I really did like the level of confidence and control the shorties gave me. While I won't be spending $1,000, I would rather own then pass them down as I outgrow them.


My 10 year-old is also learning, so nice to be able to ski with him, too.


Any and all help appreciated. Will trade good info for my Lutheran ex-mother-in-laws' meatloaf recipe, which is the best in the universe, bar none.


Snow in Vermont last night....


Cheers to all.




Whatchu think experts?

post #2 of 14
My wife really liked her K2 Sweet Luv's. (Her skills have since improved significantly and is now skiing Lotta Luvs) There are still older year models available at places like skis.com. I got hers for $179 including bindings -and that was a new pair!
post #3 of 14

If I were you I would rent skis for the first year and buy at the end of the season when the big sales come along.  Your skiing is bound to change over the season and skis that would be good for you at the beginning of this year very well might be all wrong by the end.  This would give you time to check things out and ask lots of questions before making the plunge.

post #4 of 14

First off welcome to epic and what you are doing is fantastic, good for you!


I won't be the only person here who suggests how important boots are and that you should consider finding a good boot fitter and get your boots fit (and possibly have to buy new boots.)  If they're very comfortable they may be too loose, which takes away your ability to control your skis.


I think buying a new pair of skis would be a great idea.  You could buy early season based on recommendations you get, or you could wait and go to a shop at the mountain and demo a few different pairs of skis until you found something you liked and then buy it.  Not the cheapest way to go, but could be worth it.  At your level I think buying an appropriate length decent intermediate ski won't be hard, and others on this thread will help you with that I'm sure.  They will last you a couple of years easy.


Get your boots tight, a decent pair of skis and spend a lot of time skiing and you will improve quickly!


have fun.

post #5 of 14

It's pretty awesome that you are back out on the slopes.


There are still some good ski deals out there to be had, leftovers from last year. 


K2 Sweet Luv as mentioned earlier is a good idea. K2 Free Luvs also come to mind for you.  This ski came out last year as the replacement for the One Luv, which is still available in places too.


Nice easy ski, damp and forgiving, but will grow with you as you progress.  So if you change your mind and decide to hit the black runs and the bumps, they'll go there too with you.  But they shouldn't feel as fast as your Origins.


I would not go with a junior ski.  You need a ski more appropriate for your curvy figure.   Don't be tempted into buying something because it's something you could pass down to your son.

post #6 of 14



I'm no expert but...


You stated you got fitted for boots.  Great.  Since you can wear them all day and the Vietnam Vet didn't tell you to get new ones, I'll take for granted boots aren't an issue.  I think you could get skis you are comfortable with this year and won't mind replacing next year.  If you're going to hit the slopes 20-25 times, renting seems rather expensive.  Especially when you can buy a decent pair for a third of renting that many times.


I'm guessing you're in an adult boot.  That means you SHOULD NOT get junior skis.  The bindings for juniors and adults are differently sized.  You can look under your boot and you will either see an A or a C (Adult/Child) with a line next to it.  You need to have matching bindings.  I suppose they could put adult bindings on junior skis but you want the skis to last you a year and going too short has a down side too.  As you go faster, you'll want a longer ski.


You will find that the confidence in your skis increases as the confidence in yourself does.


I did find a pair of 140's with an adult demo binding on it for my wife (starting this year).  The math says that even at $300 in skis you can get a ski that is good for you and possibly last a couple years. 


 Buying used can be very good too.  Just make sure you get them checked by a shop if you aren't buying used from a shop.


HOWEVER, I really think you should take the money to buy skis with and spend it on more lessons.  Keep the skis you have.  The skis aren't too fast.  You need to learn to control your speed.  Though I'm an instructor, I've only been skiing 5 years and I struggled with this until last year.  Your skis can only go as fast as you let them.  Learn to turn uphill more and you will slow down.  If you are going to ski mainly at Mt Snow, develop a relationship with a good instructor there.  Maybe you can get a package deal on multiple lessons there.  At their site they list a 3 day package for $220; yields 7 hours of lessons and you can pick and choose the days.  If you want to advance, you need good equipment that fits you.  If you get a shorter ski, you will this season wish you had longer skis.  Especially if you take more lessons.


Skis don't come with a speed limit.  They do make skis that can handle faster speeds, but the skis you have and any other ski you might buy, will go just as fast but the skis you already have will handle it better.


If you want to get your "ski legs" back.  Rent shorties the first day or two then get on the Origins.  Yes they are an intermediate ski, but you said you want to be an intermediate skier.  You need an intermediate ski to do that.  By the end of the season you'll be wanting 150's.


Welcome to epic! 




And I'll see you your mother-in-laws meatloaf and raise you my wife's!  When she makes meatloaf it's the only night the kids won't have someone over for dinner.  Not because it isn't good but because they don't want to share!




post #7 of 14

Oy........lotsa stuff here.


On the boots........as has been mentioned this is the most important gear. A properly fitted fitted ski boot won't feel like comfy bunny slippers. Rather, they should feel like a pair of hiking boots laced up for a rocky trail or a pair of runners laced up for your PR in a 5K. This means snug. If your boots don't feel like this then at least go for an evaluation by a good professional fitter.


On da skis.......Renting all year in order to save at the end of the season is like tripping over a dollar to pick up a dime. To get to the intermediate level, the skis you have are OK. Work on technique and time on task and think about skis later. You will probably get to the point this season where the shorter lengths feel a little scary. When that happens, go for a rental or demo of a 152-156 (ish) length. If that improves your comfort zone, then you are ready to buy and you should be looking at that 152-156 (ish) size range.


Aside from the boots, don't be in a rush to buy gear.....it doesn't matter all that much.



post #8 of 14
Thread Starter 

Oh, I got the "Boots Matter Most" drill early and often. Went to a nice little place up in Litchfield area and the kid did a great job fitting me.

They are not loose, at all. I tried a about a dozen pair on and when I got to the Head I ended up with, it was a "WOW!" moment.


No, I can feel that the boot drives the ski. My first time out I rented, and man did I end up with a nasty case of shin-bang.

Dang, that hurts! I had my own boots on for an entire weekend, and they felt great.


Gotta figure out the ski, though.


Cheers, and thanks for the info!



post #9 of 14
Thread Starter 

Thanks for the info! What a great community here.


No, the hand me downs wouldn't be for my son. He says my skis are too girly for him.


I'd just donate them to our ski club (inner city high school)





post #10 of 14
Thread Starter 

Bless bless the good bootfitters.


I got fixed up with the Head Edge Sx, and I adore them. The kid adjusted the hell out of them for my stance, flipped footbeds, put a heel wedge in,

canted and chanted, et voila! A boot I wore from first lesson to last chair, and barely loosened at lunch.


There's something about the way that liner wraps my calf, heaven.


Yep they're tight a-right. But, my toes don't get cold. There's your tell.


Plus, they are super cute!


The BF wears a pair of ancient Langes that are about as loose as an unlaced workboot, on some long Dynastars. And he skis them nearly touching.

(Okay, he's really slim hipped, so that's kind of his natural stance), but still....fer jaysus sake, he does Castlerock all day at Sugarbush on that rig.




Thanks for the excellent info.



post #11 of 14

Hi Allison,

I'm not going to chime in really about your skis, because it seems like you're getting good advice.  My question is where did you get good bootfitting in Litchfield, CT????   I live nearby and I don't know any shops which could do this.  IF I could find someone, I have a few friends I'd send. 

Can you name the shop? 


post #12 of 14
Thread Starter 

Ski Haus ..meant to say Litch County.


162 Danbury Rd.
New Milford
(860) 355-2001


I'll look for my receipt with the kids name. He was young and good.





post #13 of 14
Thread Starter 

Just came across a pair of last year First Luvs for $300 all in. (new, with bindings)


Now the question....length?


5'4" if I stand up reeeeeeeeeeeal straight.


142? 149? 163? <



163. Yeah, right.





post #14 of 14
Originally Posted by Allison Matura View Post

Just came across a pair of last year First Luvs for $300 all in. (new, with bindings)

Unless I'm mistaken, the First Luvs were true beginner skis.  You will either outgrow them, or outgrow skiing, too quickly to be worth it.

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