So I would just ask, How can a skier be less banked or full body inclined but keep the same edge angles without using more angulation than they are and allowing some positive counter to develope as the inside hip moves forward in the turn?
Ric, IMHO, by tipping the ankles and rotating the femurs while stacking up slightly inside of the outside ski. I believe that if there was a line drawn from the outside middle of the outside foot, that this should come up right through the armpit. If the armpit is farther down the hill than the outside foot, then this is a weak link and the skier might be too angulated.
As I see it, in a banked turn, a line drawn from one side of the pelvis to the other will stay at relatively right angles to the outside leg. Adding angulation will increase the angle of the pelvis to the outside leg allowing the upper body to stay more upright, direct the body power or mass more to the outside ski, freeing up the inside hip and leg, allowing the inside hip to move forward as the turn develposes, which frees up the inside foot to stay closer under the inside hip.
.Ric, I like the analogy of the line drawn through the pelvis. But let’s take a look at the last racer in the photos. There is very little, what I would call, counter being shown by this skier. He looks very much like I described above, no? He is allowing his speed and the pressure under his feet to help him get stacked up over the outside ski and not overly angulated.
I’m still not sure what you are suggesting with the inside hip. IMHO, by moving the inside hip forward, you will not free up the inside leg, but create counter, reduce the possibilities of rolling the inside ski over and decrease the likelihood of having equal edge angles and giving the image of a static park and ride skier. Buy moving both hips forward if they are back, would free up the leg with no weight on it. This is a drill that I and some of my team members did with Charlie MacArthur, D Team member and trainer just recently. It was a shuffling exercise. We would stand on either the inside or outside ski and slowly move the other light foot forwards and backwards as we skied through medium radius turns . We all discovered that if the hips were back, that it blocked the mobility of all parts of the lighter leg. If both hip bones
were forward, or we were standing up taller, then we had much more mobility of the lighter leg. In the case of the inside leg, if we were taller and squarer to the skis with our hips, it was much easier to roll or tip the inside foot over and create equal edge angles.
allowing the inside hip to move forward as the turn develposes, which frees up the inside foot to stay closer under the inside hip.
Ric,I’m having a hard time understanding how by letting the inside hip move forward would help with keeping the inside foot under the inside hip without massive counter. IMHO, in this configuration, at the beginning of the new turn, it could lead to a lot of rotation. Ric, maybe I’m just reading and visualizing what you’re saying wrong. But I sure like what I see in those racer shots, and to me, that’s what it should look like.
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