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Video for Movement Analysis

post #1 of 10
Thread Starter 
We won't be skiing here in central Ohio for another week and a half. I have been watching video I took last spring and thought I would post one for comments and others to practice their M/A.

It is 30 seconds long so it takes a few minutes on dial up to download.
Clip one
post #2 of 10
Why don't you hop in your plane and fly up to Boyne for the weekend, Tom? We could work on that lazy left hand in the video.
post #3 of 10
Thread Starter 
I have been thinking about that. The weather for flying doesn't sound very good. But anything is possible.

post #4 of 10
Phew Tom,

I guess I'm spoiled and out of date. I don't have any software that can do frame by frame on a WMV file (hmmm - wait - maybe I do but my new PC is not Internet ready yet). I also like to make the victim a little larger in the picture when I tape. But I also use a telephoto lens. Anyone who can analyse this clip from watching a media player window has a great eye!

The first observation I'm going to make is that these are some very nice turns. You're getting on edge above the fall line, you've got a nice rythym going and a pretty smooth flow. I also see some good angulation as oppposed to banking.

In addition to that lazy left hand (held low and not doing pole swings), I'm thinking I'm seeing a little upward pop in the turns. It looks like your feet are a little close together at times, but at other times you have good separation.

On the right turn at 10 seconds in, you can see yourself launching the upper body into the new left turn instead of smoothly finishing the old turn. I suspect you did this on purpose to avoid skiing into the camerman, but it does hint that there's a bad habit lurking.
post #5 of 10
Good skiing Tom! You have a nice touch for the snow and seem to shape and mange your turns well. Just a couple of quick observation without watching it more than 1 time so take it with a grain of salt.

I would focus on keeping your inside foot pulled back and under your hips. It appears you have a little to much lead with that foot that causes you to settle back thru the turn. The result is the top of your turn looks a little over steered at the top as you drift into your edge change. I think if you keep your hips a little more over your foot you will be able to make an immediate and positive engagement of the edges into the new turn. Now it appears there is a slight delay as you recenter thus allowing the ski's to drift at the top of the turn. You then make a nice roll and engagement but I think it could be sooner.

Carefull of overflexing as the ski's come under. Maybe a little movement of your (ass) can I say that? moving to the ski instead of right into the next turn as the ski's pass under. Maybe think of the legs getting longer sooner by rolling to new edges just a little quicker. I think keep the inside foot back with a strong ankle will aid all of this. Overall some very nice skiing!
post #6 of 10
Thread Starter 
Thank you for your suggestions.

Anyone who can analyse this clip from watching a media player window has a great eye!


I don't have any other software for the video's. The camera hooks up with firewire and windows media opens. I may have had someother software that came with the firewire but I don't know what happened to it. With Xp I can click on media player and it plays full screen.

launching the upper body into the new left turn

I have been working on directing my body into the new turn.


I will work on your suggestions as soon as I get on the snow.
post #7 of 10
Just curious Tom,
Why do you use the amount of tip lead you do?
post #8 of 10
Hi Tom, nice turns...Snow Trails in Mansfield is opening today with 18-24 inch base according to their web site gleaned from Go Ski. They have a photo page that shows the snow making. No that far from you.

post #9 of 10
Thread Starter 
The tip lead comes from excessive counter, although I find it comfortable. I will be working on it.

I plan to go to Snow Trails tomorrow night. I thought I would give them one more night to make snow, and things just didn't work out to go today.
post #10 of 10
Nice turns. Let me test my analytical eye. I like the drive of the inside arm on your turns to your right. The turns to the left looks like the left arm doesn't seem to drive as much - seems to be more passive. Why is that important? To me, the inside drive keeps you more balanced over the skis allowing you to adjust faster to changing terrain or snow conditions. When the arm and shoulder in particular drop a touch (turns to the left) one is not quite as a balanced. I think it might also help with the adjusments Todo suggests. Cool for cruising, but as it get steeper and tighter, you might find it less comfortable turning to the left.

[ December 08, 2003, 03:12 PM: Message edited by: Bullet ]
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