Originally Posted by beyond
FWIW, you're wrong. It IS marketed as a safety device. Here, for instance, is Ski.com: "including the Trigger S safety binding that allows for easy and reliable strap release..." Here's Backcountry: "Trigger S system uses a dynamic release system to allow the strap to break away from the grip in the event of a fall or a twisting pull from your pole." (My underlines) Lots of other sites have similar language.
Whether it's construction has a primary aim of release in a fall, cannot say. IMO, it's analogous to early "safety" bindings that were erratic at best. They were marketed as "step-ins" because they were way more convenient than the cables of the day. And that's why they were purchased, far more than for safety. Apparently the new Triggers have a metal spring that makes release more uniform and also allows for locking. So the product evolves. You can bet it'll get even more expensive as the plastic bits get replaced with metal, too. Sigh.
Well, I never purchased the poles with considerations of safety. It was the convenience I was after and most of the time, it was indeed convenient. Leki doesn't market the trigger system as a safety device. In fact, they are very careful in the choice of words used to describe the system - "The "Trigger S" grip/strap system provides unmatched convenience, performance and security. ". They obviously never mention the word safety and never mentioned about the poles releasing in falls because they don't want to be exposed to liability claims and lawsuits. The system was never designed as a safety device and was made for convenience. When I purchased the poles from Dedekberns in Ellicottville, I specifically asked about the safety aspect and release. They told me the strap may or may not disengage in a fall if sufficient force is applied in the right direction but they also were careful and stopped short of telling me it was a safety device. The only advice I was given was to press the tabs down in a fall--if you have the wherewithal to do so.
I just don't see how the straps are going to disengage in a fall without the tabs pressed or if the poles are snagged on something and there is an upward pull towards the top of the grip. When I did get the poles, the only thing I did try to do was pull as hard as I could to see if I could get the strap to pop out. I was only able to do so in an upward direction and only with a very significant amount of force--enough that I was worried I might tear the stitching on the straps. In the downward direction, there is nothing to disengage and it isn't going to come off unless the nylon tears apart at the seams.
I have no idea if If the poles disengage in crashes with the tabs pressed. I was never in any serious crashes with them and my instinct is to always ball my hands up anyways. I have heard people on here report their poles came off when snagged on trees and their was upward force on the release system. Anyways, if Leki did market the product as a safety device and someone purchases it assuming it will always pop off when needed, attorneys would be jumping up and down all over them the first time a skier reported a broken thumb while using the system.
I am not on an anti-Leki tirade nor am I suggesting that they do not make a decent product--that would be ignorant. I also am not saying that the the strap is not convenient most of the time. It is(unless snow gets trapped inside the spring). I just have no opinion on the safety aspect. I will leave that to others to report their experiences. If it offers protection to skiers, that's great. I was just ranting on Leki for their insanely ridiculous replacement parts cost. Like Nike, they obviously feel they can take stamp a logo on some materials and charge absurd prices.
That's just another aspect to weigh before a potential purchase. It is a nice system, works most of the time, and is convenient. But it is a system with detachable parts--parts that, if you are sometimes absent-minded like me, can get lost now and then. When and if that happens on a trip, are you prepared to be rolled by Leki ? Or is it better to get some decent $40 composite poles on closeout and not have to worry about such things in the future? I gave my opinion. I can''t speak for anyone else. Everyone has their own preferences and desires.