I was told that new boots can stretch up to 30% over time. If this is true, then it seems that one has to buy boots that are very, very tight initially then continue to tighten them up on the clips as they stretch. Is this the case as I'm looking at new boots?
New boots expanding over time??
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There is a WIKI at the beginning of the "Ask the boot guy's" section that covers how to decide which boot will fit you. I am convinced that most folks purchase boots like they would shoes, with there toes not touching the front. This leads to the loose ness described in your post, with over 90% of skiers who own boots that are two sizes too big to fit after break in.
The new crop of bootsmostly have heat moldeable liners which if molded will fit comfotably. Beyond that issue, there are very few human beings with straight (alinged) legs, a well trained boot fitter can evaluate your needs and help you ski better than most folks ever dreamed.
The plastic shells don't stretch, but the foam in the liner packs out. Whether it is 30% or not I've never seen quantified, but a properly fit boot does not feel very very tight when buying it if the person doing the selling is qualified to fit it. I'd also say that a properly fit boot does not ever need to be dramatically tightened with the buckles as the liner packs. If you have to crush your foot as the liner packs it is a sign the boot was too big to begin with.
I don't know if Mike is correct about the two sizes but I see a lot of two sizes to big, just like he does. Had one today who is a competive XC skier. I've seen several at four sizes to big. spend some time with the wikis if your are in the boot market and then you won't have to be another of the average two sizes to big people.
My employee today with some disclaimers started offering her some possible solutions that could make things somewhat better. I had to stop him. He likes challenges, as the store owner I like to win. A boot two sizes to big is hopeless. It fits like shit, causes over-buckling and sore feet, bashed toes, cold feet and poor skiing.
Read the Wikis ask here if you need help and look at the list of fitters here to determine if you are close to anyone. Calling buckles clips makes me think you are either in Canada or U.K.
Am I correct?
Thanks for the feedback, we had read the wiki but some of the info from the bootfitter didnt seem to align with it, to make matters more confusing there were a couple of staff in the shop at the time and they didnt seem to be in complete agreeance about this either
Were in Australia and the price difference between buying locally and importing is very significant. Ideally we'd buy from the local shop complete with fitting service and footbeds but we are considering importing direct then getting them custom fitted by a local boot fitter if required.
Clearly the risk is in not selecting the correct model, size etc to suit our "unique" feet but given a cost differential of over $1000, finite funds, at best intermediate level of skills and limited opportunities to travel we need to look at all options (except more rental boots!)
As the most common mistake seems to be boots too big then I m guessing Id be better picking the lower size if I was in between say a 29 and a 29.5? thanks again for any help
would the same go for 26 and 26.5 which my partner is looking at?
not sure about common sizes but my normal shoe size is 12 or 12.5 US, the hire shop stuck me in 31s last time and even at my level I could tell something was wrong.
29 or 29.5 was what one of the fitters suggested after sticking my foot on a brannock? device.
It is a system from beginning to end. 22 and 22.5, 23 and 23.5 and so on. There are a very few exceptions from different companies but for the most part you can depend on it. Remember that in the end the Brannock or whatever measuring device you use is just the starting point for the fitter to grab a boot off the shelf. In the end it is essential to do a shell fit.