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What will the evolution of skiing bring in 15 years???

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I know I am pretty young (23) but through my 15 years of skiing I have seen a huge change over the years. I remember my Dad's (what looked like 10 feet) long K2s with straight side cuts, pointed tips, absolutely no rocker or twin tips, and his rock solid all metal bindings. I also went through the snow blade phase (I know, I know, I'm an idiot). I then grew into the shaped ski era where stiff carving skis was what every skier wanted. In the last couple years I have seen ski waists expand from 80mm being big to now 90mm being the average all mountain waist. I have also seen the change to see everyone on the mountain having twin tip and trying to jib little tricks everywhere (even my Dad has evolved to shorter twins, probably just to look cool with his kids haha). Now, especially this year EVERYTHING is rockered, from park skis, all mountain, deep powder and everything in between. If you flew down the mountain on some mid-fat, twin tip, rockered skis in 1995 you would be laughed off the mountain! If we look back to the best sellers 15 years ago to the bet sellers today they look like aliens to each other! 


Even the way we are skiing has completely changed over the last few years and has been completely revolutionized. If you watch ski movies even from the early 2000s to the ones coming out today you can see the difference. The early ones were people ripping fast lines straight down wearing their back country gear. Nowadays the movies are people ripping huge lines hitting a back flip off a cliff and skimming past the camera in a huge smeared turn to see a flash of bright yellow, green and red just to stand out.  The jumps seem to triple in size each year and to keep up with the other skiers around you you have to be willing to risk a week in a hospital with a complete compound fracture of your femur, a dislocated hip and completely demolished gear instead of a few sore muscles, which was what you risked 10 year ago.  It's no longer going down the hill faster than your friends its now going BIGGER than your friends.


Don't get me wrong I absolutely LOVE this progression and my hats off to those of you that started this trend in the 70s or 80s with your freestyle revolution. Skiing has definitely changed to the better with better equipment and more fun freeskiing lines, but in the past 10 or 15 years this freestyle state of mind has been changing skiing so aggressively I just wonder what skiing will be in 15 years. Everyone on huge pontoon, waterski like skis? Everyone paraskiing just to go huge? If you fall you just die??? What do you all think will happen????

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Gearwise I think we will see some new shapes, more and different types of rocker.


I think big mountainskiers will become better on flippy/jibbystuff and jibbers will become better at freeriding. What we see in the park today with double and tripple corks/flips (with "style" I might add sine it's been done in pow previously) will be thrown off cliffs. Perhaps even on Bed du Ross, who knows with guys like Candide and Henke Windstedt on the tour.


But I think thats just an evolution thats been going on ever since CR, Pep, EP and the boys started throwing spins on big lines in the early 2000 (watch CR's part of focused ie, sick cork 3's on big lines in norway, way ahead of his time, RIP).


I also think there will be more freeride jibbycomps like linecatcher/coldrush, probably even a tour for it. I know I would love to see one! smile.gif


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You know what I'm curious to see, is if Jon Olsson is successful on the World Cup/Olympics, if there will be a resurgence of racing.  Plenty of Ex-Racers have made the switch to freeriding...big mountains at least, not so much park and tricks, but to my knowledge, Jon Olsson is the first to go the other way around.  I know he was a racer long before he was a freestyler, but still, nobody besides him has thought to go back.  I think if he could do this with an element of success, or better yet, a huge podium at the Olympics, I wouldn't be surprised to see a racing renaissance.  Not to the level of popularity of the X-Games or Linecatchers, but enough that it won't be made fun of by the masses like it currently is.  I'd imagine you'd see more pros returning to racing too after their big mountain or freestyle careers are washed up.  And just imagine if you had the sponsors and endorsements leftover from freestyle to sustain you while you worked back towards a racing career.  It seems to me Jon has moved back up the ranks quite quickly.  And be honest, even as a freestyler, who wouldn't want to stand on top of an Olympic Podium with a Gold Medal for Downhill around their neck.  I think deep down, even the snottiest little park rat would still like that.  I would.


I've been a park rat for 11 years, and I will be dabbling in racing this year.  Partly because my company has a series of races with the competition, all at good mountains that I want to go to anyway, and partly because Jon is showing racing(carving?) isn't as nerdy as I always thought.  Anyways I hope I'm not the only one that sees it this way, but it seems to me he opened a door I wouldn't have otherwise walked through, and there are probably others out there like me. 

post #4 of 5

First....props to you for trying something new and different with your experiment in racing. That says a lot for your passion for the sport.


Re: Olsson.........He is an absolutely enormous talent. That talent was honed and developed in racing first. As in all aspects of sport, the highest level of development comes from the highest levels of competition. This is much like Basketball/Volleyball where some superb volleyball players (Keith Erickson, John Vallely come to mind) were NBA level hoopsters first. Olsson has the gift and he could have been an Olympic level contender before. The fact that he might even get there again is a tribute to his developed skills. I really hope he makes it back to his prior levels and then beyond.



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Skis: The evolution will be "individualism."  In 15 years there will be no technology that will make one manufacturer that much better than another.  There will be no "shape" that will make one manufacturer better than another, either.  Any shape and flex combinations will be available at any time for any skier by almost any manufacturer.  The tops on skis will offer a lot more customization.  (they may not all be as cool as a Ski Logik's today).  In absence of a competitive advantage customization will be huge compared to today.


Boots: Hey, if the lasts fits, there is a better chance the boot fits. If the boot cuff fits around the shin, there is a better chance the boot fits.  If the boot ...you get the idea.  I see high quality "component" boots in 15 years sold by the best ski shops (custom branded, custom fitted) and not just by a couple of single-location custom manufacturers. Sure, the typical ski boots will still be sold.  But the best shops will see decent margins with custom boots because someone will design a machine using some yet-to-be-discovered synthetic material that will pop out custom plugs within an hour.


Teaching:  Skiers will still learn to slide turns first, and most skiers will never progress past that. WTF, golf handicaps never get better decade after decade, right?  The PSIA will discover even more ways to discuss turns.  PSIA members will also  disagree on every definition they came up with to discuss turns.  In 15 years Bode Miller pens his autobiography and writes,, "Racers should just arc better turns and talk less about them."


Clothing:  You will be able to go into a custom shop, stand in your underwear while a bunch of lasers measure you for a perfect fit for ski jackets and ski pants .  Then they will be manufactured in a warehouse and delivered to you door within 24 hours.


Lift ticket prices:  Lift ticket pricing at the biggest resorts will insure a bunch of affluent patrons who will continue to provide local tax revenue.  Lawyers will still be in existence in 15 year with no tort reform passed by Congress.  Therefore, small ski areas will close over the cost of liability insurance.


Racing:  In the old days, we bought whatever our favorite racers skied on  (how else did we hear of the Elan 08?).  Today I don't see people screaming for Stocklis because 5 medals were won on them at the last Olympics.  Hell, ski shops aren't exactly screaming for HEADs despite Lindsey, Maria, Bode, Didier, etc. killing it on their boards.  Racing will be racing, but the amount of product it sells will be like today.  NBC will successfully bid on the Olympic coverage in 16 years and screw it up again, presumably because NBC stands for "Nitwits Bastardizing Coverage."


New Skiers:  Kids, as always, will be the next generation of skiers.  They will progress better and faster than ever, particularly in the freestyle category. The worst enemy to kids having more fun will always be their parents.


Helmets:  Helmet laws will be passed in certain mountain states and will become mandatory in 15 years.  THe majority of skiers won't notice because they were wearing helmets anyway since they started skiing as little kids.  Helmets will also offer customized graphics.


Chips:  Lojac type chips will be enbedded inside every ski you buy,  If someone swipes your boards, they will get caught when going up the base lift at any ski area.  Every skier will be able to track their runs, as well as the position of thier kids on the mountain off their cell phones (they pretty much already can).


Edited by quant2325 - 10/8/10 at 2:17pm
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