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post #91 of 100
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Originally Posted by Maineac View Post
 

That was the only one that comes to mind.  Yeah it is important the vertical is sustained, which is why I think vertical is often overstated.

 

I have seen your great shots of Snowbasin for a while on here.  Last winter I skied there one day and it was a storm day so none of the upper stuff was open.  Fun skiing and a local graciously showed me around, but I had wanted to hike up for some of those chutes.  Hopefully I will be back.

Yes, you'll need to get back!  Lot's of great chutes both inbounds & just outside.  Some are easy access, others are not.  The stars need to really line-up to get some of the best.  Always weighing risk & reward :eek.

 

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Originally Posted by rod9301 View Post

I'm theory, it shouldn't matter if a couloir is 15 turns or 100. In practice, it does.

A long couloir is a lot scarier than a short one. I heard someone stay once" to me it doesn't matter how long a couloir is, it's all the same".

All he meant is, I've never been on top of a steep, long, committing line.

But for the purpose of the original question, once you have at least 1000 vertical feet, the turns are the same, ie speed control is important.

Couldn't agree more!  We spout a lot of theory in these threads but in real world practice you do what works in the moment.  Best not to get stuck in one school of thought but be open to all the possibilities.  Some will teach us what works, others what doesn't.  Experimentation, sharing, practice & experience are the best teachers :cool.

Just realizing that I posted in this thread 6 yrs ago.  Interesting that the mountains don't change but our experiences & perspective do.

 

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Originally Posted by Rich666 View Post
 

Before this thread moves on too far, props should go out to the photog, skier and terrain in that most recent set of pics. Nice ,,,, all the way around.

Photography props go to Chris Morgan @Twosherpas.com for the first 3 photos.  The last one "looking back up" is my own.

 

Here is another one of Chris's looking down Mt. Ogden Chute from over my shoulder...

 

And a screenshot from the same day coming onto the flank...

post #92 of 100
 

 

 

Atop a cornus like a priest at the altar

A devotional drink of holy red wine

A moment of prayer that he not falter

Before he dips into his sacred shrine

Diving from his perch like a peregrine falcon

Eyes sternly locked on its prey

Casting its shadow over the tender and feeble

Its beak and talons poised to slay

While the hands are empty at the bottom of every run

The scales of satisfaction are tipped at full

Nothing we leave and with nothing we come

As the sack brings it with a pocketful

post #93 of 100
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A moment of prayer that he not falter

Before he dips into his sacred shrine

My pre-planned line, I will not alter

Let me drop now, I'll skip the wine!

post #94 of 100
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Originally Posted by chemist View Post
 

Yes, one has to be early and fast; luck also helps.

 

Here's a pic of Phillippe's at Mammoth.  It's inbounds, on the trail map, and avalanche-controlled by the ski patrol.  According to "How to Ski Mammoth," published in 1975 and long since out of print, its pitch varies from 50* to 40*.  Meets all your criteria except possibly the 500 m length, but I don't think whether it's 200 m or 500 m matters for the purpose of the OP's question.

 

Instead of entering from Paranoids, coming directly down Philippe's from the Skyline is pretty exciting. Depending on the rocks coverage that is.

post #95 of 100
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Originally Posted by green26 View Post
 

Instead of entering from Paranoids, coming directly down Philippe's from the Skyline is pretty exciting. Depending on the rocks coverage that is.


I've not entered Philippe's using the way depicted in the photo I posted above, which appears to be P3->Philippe's (in fact, from the perspective in that photo it looks like it would require a climb, unless you hit the ridge separating P3 and P4 much higher).  Instead, I've only done P4->Philippe's, which can be seen in the pic below, from http://patrol.mammothmountain.com/Atlas/philippes/philippes.html.   Is that what you meant by the Skyline entrance?

post #96 of 100

You really see the steepness in that photo.

post #97 of 100
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Originally Posted by chemist View Post
 


I've not entered Philippe's using the way depicted in the photo I posted above, which appears to be P3->Philippe's (in fact, from the perspective in that photo it looks like it would require a climb, unless you hit the ridge separating P3 and P4 much higher).  Instead, I've only done P4->Philippe's, which can be seen in the pic below, from http://patrol.mammothmountain.com/Atlas/philippes/philippes.html.   Is that what you meant by the Skyline entrance?

Yes that's it! Paranoids 4 to Philippes. Never knew there was another name to it.

post #98 of 100
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Originally Posted by 4ster View Post
 

 

Steep, narrow couloir :dunno?  This one opens up a bit after the first few hundred feet of vertical, maybe 15 turns...

 

 

Here's another one...

 

...& looking back up

I'm not sure if the 2nd one qualifies as a Couloir, in fact we call them both chutes.  The steepness is there for sure & the chokes in both get very narrow but only for a few turns.

 

I have skied Phillipe's & a few others like Huevos Grande at Mammoth that certainly have the pucker factor but 500' to 1000' of sustained vertical are hard to find in bounds.  Maybe Big Couloir at Big Sky qualifies?

 

As a snowbasin local who hasn't done any of those chutes, gosh it looks incredible. I consider myself an advanced skier (can ski all the in-bounds stuff) but that just looks out of my league. Hope to ski some of that someday

post #99 of 100
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As a snowbasin local who hasn't done any of those chutes, gosh it looks incredible. I consider myself an advanced skier (can ski all the in-bounds stuff) but that just looks out of my league. Hope to ski some of that someday

Kbat, let's hook up for a couple laps this season.

post #100 of 100
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Originally Posted by kbat11700 View Post
 

 

As a snowbasin local who hasn't done any of those chutes, gosh it looks incredible. I consider myself an advanced skier (can ski all the in-bounds stuff) but that just looks out of my league. Hope to ski some of that someday

Kbat, let's hook up for a couple laps this season.


@kbat11700 : you will have an amazing time with 4ster.  Send him a PM let him know you are interested ASAP.

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