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Tecnica Diablo Pro vs Full Tilt vs Dalbello Krypton

post #1 of 10
9/29/10 at 5:10pm
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This will be my fourth season with the Diablo Pro boots.  I have narrow feet and they were only the second boots I've ever owned that really gave me control of skis.  The problem is I started teaching last year and they are not so much fun to wear all day when you do a lot of standing around or skiing switch to watch your students.  I only weigh 140 pounds and 2 years ago Brent Amsbury from Park City questioned whether they were too stiff for me.  Last season was sort of a lost season for me due to complication from a ruptured Achilles tendon, but lately I've been thinking of getting a pair of Full Tilt First Chair or Dalbello Krypton Cross to replace the Tecnicas and I'm wondering about what I may be giving up if I do that.  The shops where I might buy these of course tell me that my skiing will improve with these new fabulous boots.  If it makes a difference I'll be skiing primarily on 161cm Icelantic Shamans.

 

Thanks for any advice you can offer.

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post #2 of 10
10/1/10 at 6:56pm

http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2168120

 

this is the krypton vs FT boots.   the FT are much narrower (closer to what you have)   will they improve your skiing?   Sure,  if they fit you well, but I can't tell you that..

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post #3 of 10
10/1/10 at 11:14pm
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Very interesting.  The guy who sold me the Tecnicas closed his ski shop and is working at big box place that carries Dalbello and he's telling me I should get Dalbello because they're "just like Full Tilt" and they both fit the same.  But it isn't the first time he's tried to feed me BS.  Unfortunately they have a pretty dismal selection, only one three piece boot and it isn't a Krypton and not on Dalbello's website.  But, it is early yet so they may get more in.   

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post #4 of 10
10/2/10 at 10:45pm

I tried to answer before but evidently things went awry.

 

Tecnica Race Pros and Krypton are both 98mm boots, so forefoot width should be similar.  I believe the FT is also although mtnlion disagrees so not certain which of us is correct.  But I agree with him that whether your skiing will imporve will depend primarily on fit.

 

You don't say which flex of race pro you have so I can't automatically concur that moving to a FT or Krypton will make any difference.  Also don't know where the assumption that a softer boot is automatically more comfortable comes from.  Comfort is primarily about boot shape and not stiffness.

 

Is it possible that your current boots simply aren't fit correctly?

 

Lou

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post #5 of 10
10/3/10 at 9:55am

in fit terms the FT is also 98mm (according the the guys at full tilt) but lower over the instep than any other boot, and the thicker liner makes it fit real tight

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post #6 of 10
10/3/10 at 3:58pm
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Originally Posted by Lou Rosenfeld View Post

 

You don't say which flex of race pro you have so I can't automatically concur that moving to a FT or Krypton will make any difference.  Also don't know where the assumption that a softer boot is automatically more comfortable comes from.  Comfort is primarily about boot shape and not stiffness.

 

Is it possible that your current boots simply aren't fit correctly?

 

Lou

 

I have Diablo Pros not Race Pros.  The flex index for the Diablo Pro is 100.  I think they fit correctly and two years ago Brent Amsbury said they fit correctly, but he did wonder if they are too stiff for me.  A custom insole may help some with the comfort but it won't change the stiffness.  When I bought them there was only one shop in town with anyone who knew anything about fitting boots and the Tecnica Diablo Pro was the narrowest boot they stocked, aside from the Tecnica Race Pro 110 and Race Pro 130.  If Brent is at our division fall fest again this year I plan to have him make me a pair of insoles since I can use them in any boot.  It may also be that even without a custom insole they will be more comfortable this year because I'm past the problems with the Achilles tendon rupture.  I can now put the boots on and they don't hurt the back of my ankle like they did last year.
 

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post #7 of 10
10/4/10 at 12:55pm

if they fit, (shape) but are too stiff (flex) why not just make them softer?

 

My findings are from measuring the isside of the shells, and I found that the same size of FT, vs Kry, the FT was 1-2mm narrower in width, and 2-4mm lower in instep.  YMMV

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post #8 of 10
10/4/10 at 7:27pm
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How do you make a boot softer?

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post #9 of 10
10/5/10 at 11:40am

remove any rear rivets

 

power strap around the liner (not the shell)


"V" notch the sides, or rear of the lower cuff of the boot.

 

lower the front, of the lower cuff

 

lower the top of the upper cuff.

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post #10 of 10
10/5/10 at 12:53pm
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Interesting.  Thanks.  I just learned that Brent will be at our division Fall Fest in early December so I plan to make an appointment with him and see what he thinks and have him make some insoles.

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