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where the hell can i find a salomon falcon cs pro boot 29.0!

post #1 of 20
Thread Starter 

Got fitted in a falcon cs 29.5 at a ski shop... nice! But they had no pro model! I'm a heavy 245 guy and need the extra stiffness. Ill give my right arm to the person who can locate a pair!!!!
Phil

 

OK, I located a pair $700!  Ouch!  But now how do I get the boot heated/molded to get that custom fit?  Are there istructions online somewhere?  Or should I beg a shop to help me out even though I didn't buy the boot from them?

PHIL


Edited by walcher - 9/30/10 at 2:48pm
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Got fitted in a falcon cs 29.5 at a ski shop... nice! But they had no pro model! I'm a heavy 245 guy and need the extra stiffness. Ill give my right arm to the person who can locate a pair!!!!
Phil



That's the exact boot I fit in and size I am looking for.  What's the flex difference between the CS and the Pro?

post #3 of 20
Thread Starter 

I believe the pro is 110 and the cs is 90.  So with my weight feel I need the pro.  If not I can always remove the screws and get the flex of the cs.

 

I'm able to locate a pro for $700!  Ouch!  Now the bigger question is am I able to do the boot molding myself?  Where can I get instructions on how to mold this boot?  I know the fit is right cause I was fitted to a cs in a shop and it felt good but they didn't have the pro so I walked out...  The guy said you are able to mold/heat the boot yourself to get that "custom fit" at home but never got the instructions.  Or should I beg a shop to custom fit me even though I didn't buy the boot there?

 

PHIL

post #4 of 20

Is there a reason that the shop that fitted you couldn't get the boot you want?  In my experience, they can usually find one for you, if its out there.

post #5 of 20
Thread Starter 

They stopped selling Salomon.  It was a sale to get rid of their old stock from last year...  Good news I found a pair online from Aspen East up in Vermont.  The last pair at 29.0!  Orange?  Hopefully it looks good...  It cost me $700!  Ouch!

post #6 of 20

Let us know how this turned out.  Did you get the instructions in the box with the boots?  Were you able to easily "do it yourself"?  I am asking because I live in an area that does not have these boots in stock at either of the 2 ski stores and I am getting ready to ditch my 8 year old Rossi Pro Elites in favor of this boot.  Thanks to walcher for the Aspen East lead.  They DO have them in my size.  Just trying now to decide if I need the Pro's or not (HUGE $230 difference).

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That's the exact boot I fit in and size I am looking for.  What's the flex difference between the CS and the Pro?



Depends on year I think ... pre-2010 the flex ratings were 90 and 110 respectively, but the 2010 and 2011 boots I believe are 100 and 120 respectively.  I also heard from a couple owners (and was verbally confirmed by my bootfitter) that the 2010 CS feels like it has a larger gap between the flex in the store and stiffness on the slopes ... i.e. it skis stiffer than what you'd expect given its feel in the store.  Not sure if that's true for the Pro as well.

post #8 of 20

I have a pair of 29.0 CS Pros with 15 days on them that I would sell for $400.  Never heated,  and no damage other than normal scuffs from use.  I can email several pictures if interested.  I realize $400 is on the steep side for used boots,  but it's the only way I can justify letting 'em go.

 

The boot is simply too wide for my narrow foot.  I have added various pieces of foam to the outside of the liners to snug them up (all removeable).  It works,  but I would prefer to find a narrower boot.  Having invested nearly $700 in these,  it's hard to justify getting rid of them.

 

PM me if interested.

 

AM.

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I have a pair of 29.0 CS Pros with 15 days on them that I would sell for $400.  Never heated,  and no damage other than normal scuffs from use.  I can email several pictures if interested.  I realize $400 is on the steep side for used boots,  but it's the only way I can justify letting 'em go.

 

The boot is simply too wide for my narrow foot.  I have added various pieces of foam to the outside of the liners to snug them up (all removeable).  It works,  but I would prefer to find a narrower boot.  Having invested nearly $700 in these,  it's hard to justify getting rid of them.

 

PM me if interested.

 

AM.


Aren't they only a 98mm last?  That's almost as small as it gets!

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Aren't they only a 98mm last?  That's almost as small as it gets!


I was thinking exactly the same thing ... in fact my bootfitter started with the CS because I have a very narrow foot and he thought it would be the best natural fit.  Tried some older Tecnicas too (which traditionally fit my narrow foot best), but even they were too wide. 
 

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Aren't they only a 98mm last?  That's almost as small as it gets!



Yes,  but that's too wide for my foot - I measure 13.5 A/B on a brannock (sp?) device.  Especially have trouble in the heel/ankle area where my foot's especially narrow.  If I can sell these,  I plan to visit Jeff Bergeron on Breckenridge for help in finding/customizing a boot that actually fits.  I've been doing the foam padding thing for too many years now.

 

AM.

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Yes,  but that's too wide for my foot - I measure 13.5 A/B on a brannock (sp?) device.  Especially have trouble in the heel/ankle area where my foot's especially narrow.  If I can sell these,  I plan to visit Jeff Bergeron on Breckenridge for help in finding/customizing a boot that actually fits.  I've been doing the foam padding thing for too many years now.

 

AM.


Lange has always been known to make narrow boots.  I did see a recent one with a 97mm last I think?  Comp Pros maybe?  Have you tried them?  I had a Dalbello on my foot recently too, like a Raichle, I think my foot was half it's former width when it got out.

post #13 of 20

So much mis-information here. While Lange has made narrow boots, and maybe has a rep for them, they also make wide boots. For this season the RS 130 is offered in both a 98mm and a 100mm last. Tecnica also has boots that range from 95mm and up. Don't let old reputations of how boots fit influence you when boot shopping, the times have changed and your best bet is to a good fitter and work together to find what works for YOU! For the super narrow feet you may have to start with a "race" boot and have it made softer by a fitter. A boot such as the Tecnica Inferno 130R is a 95mm, which is as narrow as they come. As for molding a Salomon yourself, good luck. It is not really that complicated, but you can melt them down pretty easy and considering you (the OP) just dropped a good amount of money on your boots, risking melting them down in your home oven sounds foolish. Not only will ruin your boot, but you might ruin your oven, neither of which are cheap to replace. Find a shop that knows how to mold the Salomons and pay them a few bucks and maybe a 6 pack of beer, it will be worth it in the long run.

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So much mis-information here. While Lange has made narrow boots, and maybe has a rep for them, they also make wide boots. For this season the RS 130 is offered in both a 98mm and a 100mm last. Tecnica also has boots that range from 95mm and up. Don't let old reputations of how boots fit influence you when boot shopping, the times have changed and your best bet is to a good fitter and work together to find what works for YOU! For the super narrow feet you may have to start with a "race" boot and have it made softer by a fitter. A boot such as the Tecnica Inferno 130R is a 95mm, which is as narrow as they come. As for molding a Salomon yourself, good luck. It is not really that complicated, but you can melt them down pretty easy and considering you (the OP) just dropped a good amount of money on your boots, risking melting them down in your home oven sounds foolish. Not only will ruin your boot, but you might ruin your oven, neither of which are cheap to replace. Find a shop that knows how to mold the Salomons and pay them a few bucks and maybe a 6 pack of beer, it will be worth it in the long run.


That's why I carefully worded my statement that they were known to make narrow boots, and that I saw "1" recently listed at 97mm.  So as not be all inclusive to all Langes everywhere.  Then asked IF he'd tried them.  It wasn't a blanket statement that Lange is the answer.

post #15 of 20

I skied in older Langes for many, many years.  They,  too,  were too wide,  but I had home-customized them to where they worked quite well.  Following ankle surgery which included the insertion of a screw into the side of my ankle,  I could no longer ski the Langes.  For some reason,  they caused a lot of pain in the repaired area.  I tried some of the newer Langes,  including the Comp Pro's,  but they were too wide AND felt as if they were still going to cause more discomfort.  For some reason,  the Solomon's did not feel like they were pressuring my ankle,  and I have been able to resume skiing pain-free.  Pain-free is definitely good,  but I really miss the joy of skiing in a boot that properly harnesses every input.

 

The Falcon is definitely a neat boot if it fits your foot.  I have it working okay for me now that I have (through trial and error) taken up the major slop with additions of foam pads.  I like the fact that it's a pretty comfortable boot allowing me to ski all day without having to take it off (though I do unbuckle on the lifts).

 

AM.


Edited by Attacking Mid - 10/20/10 at 1:24pm
post #16 of 20

I scored a pair of Falcon Pro CS's, last years orange ones, last month on Ebay for $241 brand new in box. The seller was Emillio's Ski Shop in New York City. They hurt my forefoot when they came out of the box. I boiled each shell for 20 minutes each, reinstalled the liner, and wore them for an hour. Now they feel awesome! I can't wait for the snow. I have been in Tecnica's for years and was skeptical of a change. I won these at auction and now I am thrillfound ed. I keep wearing them around the house, and the fit now is wonderful. I found a site through google on how to boil them. I was very nervous, but it was a piece of cake.  From my research, this boot is now the  X3-10 CS. The only difference being the color and name. O2 Gear Shop had the X3-10's on sale a little while ago

post #17 of 20

I didn't mention that I scored 28.5's

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I didn't mention that I scored 28.5's



Good thing you mention that.  I was going to cry if they were 29's.

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Good thing you mention that.  I was going to cry if they were 29's.


I think I posted this link to a pair of Falcon CS Pro 29's for $469 but if I didn't here it is again...act quickly

http://www.buckmans.com/store/Salomon-Falcon-CS-Pro-Ski-Boot---Mens-OSCARItem_1357=7346.aspx

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I knew that I needed  new boots after last years 80 plus days. I have been in Tecnica's since 1990 and have been quite happy. I was looking for the Tecnica Dragon 120 in a 28.5. Last month I went to Ebay, and the Salomon Falcon Pro Cs was on there for a starting bid of $179 ending in 3 days. When I next looked at Ebay the auction was ending in 30 minutes. I figured what the hell, I'll bid a max of $250.If I am not happy with the fit, I'll be able to sell them for at least what I paid for them. Well I won the auction, and once I molded them I couldn't be happier. You remove the liner and put the shell in a lobster pot of boiling water. I left them in there one at a time for @20 minutes, removed them, drained the water, installed the liner, put the boot on and buckled loosely and wore them for an hour. I then took them off. The next day I put them back on and the fit was awesome. It appears that Salomon discontinued this model this year, and renamed it the X3-10 CS,only changing the color. O2 Gear Shop had them a couple of months ago on sale.   Don't be afraid of boiling them yourself. It was easy with no harm done. From what I've learned, the liner does not need to be heated as it will mold to your foot on it's own. Good Luck and keep checking Ebay and Spadout. You will be happy with them.

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