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Head supershape i.speed 177vs Rossignol radical oversize 9x 180

post #1 of 6
Thread Starter 

How would you compare these skis in terms of:

1)Versatility(broken snow and bumps)

2)Dampness(glued to the snow feeling)

3)Moderate speed performance and general ease of skiing.

 

My stats 6.1 195lbs

Looking for a high performance ripper with an all mountain bias

 

Thanks in advance...

post #2 of 6

Hi - Welcome to Epic. I've owned a precursor to the iSpeed, same ski, different graphics, and I've skied the 9X OS. Both superior skis, but very different. iSpeeds are damper, heavier, more solid in heavy crud. 9X's are lighter, still quite smooth but not that planted Head feel, much better in bumps and a bit easier in light chop or fresh. They tend to ride up a bit more, while the iSpeeds go through. Neither are ice skates, and neither are suited for all mountain work. They're old school recreational GS skis.

 

I'm 60 lbs lighter than you, and while I really liked both, I preferred the 9X's for recreational purposes. They were definitely my choice in terms of "moderate speed performance and general ease..." just because they're a bit softer and easier to bend at moderate speeds. OTOH, you also mention "high speed ripper," which seems to contradict your first statement, and then an "all mountain bias," which sorta contradicts the "ripper" bit. If ripping is more the case, then the iSpeeds. If all mountain, then the 9X's. If moderate speeds and ease, then the 9X. Like the rest of life, skis are also a tradeoff...

 

Now for the barrage of alternative suggestions. 

post #3 of 6

^^^^ What he said.  I've not tried the 9X but I've been on the iSpeed for a few runs and "glued to the snow, high speed ripper" is a good description (in my limited experience), but it's not really going to tick the "all mountain" box for you.  Hard(ish) to cover both those bases in one go, although it really depends on your definition of "all mountain" and where you intend to ski.  If you flesh out those specs I'm sure some of the more knowlegeable folk around here will help.

 

Good luck.

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Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by beyond View Post

Hi - Welcome to Epic. I've owned a precursor to the iSpeed, same ski, different graphics, and I've skied the 9X OS. Both superior skis, but very different. iSpeeds are damper, heavier, more solid in heavy crud. 9X's are lighter, still quite smooth but not that planted Head feel, much better in bumps and a bit easier in light chop or fresh. They tend to ride up a bit more, while the iSpeeds go through. Neither are ice skates, and neither are suited for all mountain work. They're old school recreational GS skis.

 

I'm 60 lbs lighter than you, and while I really liked both, I preferred the 9X's for recreational purposes. They were definitely my choice in terms of "moderate speed performance and general ease..." just because they're a bit softer and easier to bend at moderate speeds. OTOH, you also mention "high speed ripper," which seems to contradict your first statement, and then an "all mountain bias," which sorta contradicts the "ripper" bit. If ripping is more the case, then the iSpeeds. If all mountain, then the 9X's. If moderate speeds and ease, then the 9X. Like the rest of life, skis are also a tradeoff...

 

Now for the barrage of alternative suggestions. 

That was really the info I was looking for.Thanks a lot!


 

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Originally Posted by sinbad7 View Post

^^^^ What he said.  I've not tried the 9X but I've been on the iSpeed for a few runs and "glued to the snow, high speed ripper" is a good description (in my limited experience), but it's not really going to tick the "all mountain" box for you.  Hard(ish) to cover both those bases in one go, although it really depends on your definition of "all mountain" and where you intend to ski.  If you flesh out those specs I'm sure some of the more knowlegeable folk around here will help.

 

Good luck.I

 

I am not looking for a 50-50 ski or something.I want a GS type ski which I am gonna use for on piste skiing 99% of the time.For a certain number of reasons I narrowed down my list into the above and I was wondering

which one would be the most versatile as far as a variety of speeds and resort terrain would be concerned.

post #5 of 6

I think beyond has covered it pretty well.

 

The iSpeeds weren't especially happy in slower, shorter turns, but came to life and put a grin on my face when I opened them up and let them run a bit.  I'm 6'4" and 210lbs by the way, and after my demo I decided they were a terrific ski but just a bit too much for what I had in mind.  I'd happily own a pair as my own "high speed ripper", but I was testing for my next every day hard snow carver.

 

From all of the above the 9X seems to be more at ease as an everyday ski across a blend of speeds, turn shapes and terrain.  I've not been on them, but now I wish I'd had the chance at the demo day.

 

Up to you to nominate how and where you intend to ski.

post #6 of 6

Just a quick bump for a great Epic seller Greg Merz who has a pair of Supershape Speeds in the equipment section. Almost brand new, 5 days use. I bought my basic Supershapes from him and they were perfect.  PM and get his thoughts on the performance of the ski. Head amazes me in that they produce 3 supershapes, all narrow waisted carvers that have much more in common than they have differences. Fine tuning, yes, confusing, yes! 

 

http://www.epicski.com/forum/thread/95713/head-worldcup-ispeed-08-09-model-175cm

 

I presume you are looking at the 09-10 models. For 10-11, Head is changing the ski and  it will no longer be the friendly Supershape with the addition of KERS technology. Initial reviews love the performance of new ski but state it's more demanding. I'm looking to demo one this winter.

 

Good luck deciding.

 

 

 

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