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Atomic Snoop vs. Volkl Bridge vs. Mantra vs. Prophet 90 or 100

post #1 of 14
Thread Starter 

I'm an intermediate/ advanced skier moving to Big Sky for the winter and I need a new pair of skis.  I'm by no means a great skier but I'm already comfortable on blacks and I'll venture on a few double blacks every now and then.   I'd say I spend most of my time sking bowls and trees but I want something that is decent on groomers too. I'm not the most aggressive skier and I like to be able to turn quickly so that will be a big part of my decision as well.  Any advice on what might be the best ski for me would be great.

post #2 of 14

Just get one of each - problem solved !

post #3 of 14

I think the Mantra is the oddball in that group.  Much stiffer than the others which may not be such a great thing for you.

post #4 of 14

The Mantras a bit of a beast but lots of fun if you're on it. Ski frontside like a race ski. The prophets are easier to ski and very playful but no ice skate. Better in Pow than the Mantra. Those are the two I've skied.

post #5 of 14
I haven't been on the new '11 bridge, but have been on the old one as well as the snoop mantra and prophet 90. Of those, I'd recommend the bridge. The mantra and prophets are both stiffer and more demanding, and I just don't really like the snoop.
post #6 of 14

I've been on all of them and would suggest the Prophet 90 or the Snoop. Both are fine all around choices within their width ranges. The 2010 Bridge would have been an equally good choice but the 2011 version is not a great call. I have owned two Mantras but seldom recommend it....it is just not all that it is touted to be.

 

SJ 

post #7 of 14

I've skied them all except the snoop, and I own the mantras (amongst other things)

 

Given your description i think the Prophet 90 (or even better the 100) would make the best fit. Its quite a bit softer than the mantra, but still performs well on hard stuff, but its much better in soft snow. I never ride my mantras in powder. They are my hard snow ski really. Mantras are a ski that I don't really recommend unless they are fairly aggressive skiers as you need to stay on top of it or its will get away on your pretty fast. 

 

Volkl Bridge-Wasn't a fan of the newer '11 model. Its basically a park ski crossed with an all mtn ski, and thats exactly how it felt. It didn't ski nearly as well as the prophet or mantra in the conditions i used it in. Too much all mtn compromise in exchange for park performance IMO.

post #8 of 14
Thread Starter 

Thanks for the feedback. For those you have skied the Prophet 90 and 100, can you shed a little insight on what I will gain/ lose by going from the 90 to the 100? Will quick turns be much tougher with the 100? From what I've read, a lot of people seem to think the 90 is better fit for the east and the 100 is better out west.  Seeing that I'll be in MT I'd assume that the 100 might be a better choice.  My concern is my past skis have been around 75 in the waist and I'm worried the transition to a ski that is so much wider might be tough.  Is this something that I should be worried about or will it just take a few weeks to get used to the wider ski. Thanks again for all the help, you guys know a lot more about this than I do and I appreciate the input.

post #9 of 14
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Originally Posted by osborrc0 View Post

My concern is my past skis have been around 75 in the waist and I'm worried the transition to a ski that is so much wider might be tough.  Is this something that I should be worried about or will it just take a few weeks to get used to the wider ski.


As someone who went from a 69 waist to a 94 waist several years ago for my daily driver, it's not something you should worry about.  It won't take a few weeks, it only took me a few runs.  The skis will obviously ski differently than your old skis, but it's not going to feel so foreign that it takes weeks to adjust to, trust me.

post #10 of 14
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Originally Posted by osborrc0 View Post

Thanks for the feedback. For those you have skied the Prophet 90 and 100, can you shed a little insight on what I will gain/ lose by going from the 90 to the 100? Will quick turns be much tougher with the 100? From what I've read, a lot of people seem to think the 90 is better fit for the east and the 100 is better out west.  Seeing that I'll be in MT I'd assume that the 100 might be a better choice.  My concern is my past skis have been around 75 in the waist and I'm worried the transition to a ski that is so much wider might be tough.  Is this something that I should be worried about or will it just take a few weeks to get used to the wider ski. Thanks again for all the help, you guys know a lot more about this than I do and I appreciate the input.


There are more benfits to the 100 than the 90, especially living in MT. I got back on ski's for the first time in over 15 years last year. And I never skied much back then. I had no problem learning again with the P100. It's a solid ski that is good in the fresh, and competent enough in just about any other condition except for ice. Real inuitive design. It's Lines top selling ski because it's so good. If I wasn't intent on supporting my local ski builder it would definetely be my daily driver still.
 

post #11 of 14

The 90 is a bit better on groomers ect, but you gain more than you lose going to the 100. 100 is still very easy to ski everywhere (incl. hard snow)

post #12 of 14
Thread Starter 

Ok, one more question.  I'm 5'9"-10" about 160 lbs intermediate/ aspiring advanced but I plan to get 75+ days on the slopes this year. Like I said above, I'm not the most aggressive skier and I like to be able to turn quickly (love skiing trees) so would I be better off with the Prophet 100 in 172 or 179? I'd be willing to struggle a bit at first if the 179 would probably be better in the long run. What do y'all think?

post #13 of 14

179. It skis really short. I'm the same weight as you but a bit taller and skied the 179 @ a demo, and would go 186 if I bought a pair of my own. You will regret going shorter..


Edited by FieldsofGlory - 9/28/10 at 3:39pm
post #14 of 14

Agreed.  It's a full twin which makes a big difference.  I think the 172 would be too short for you.

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