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post #91 of 143
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Just curious?  How many vert ft of skiing can you get in a day on the public owned free stuff?  If you've got the $$$ I say spend it on a lift pass so you get spend your day skiing instead of hiking.  I guess it all boils down to what like more- hiking or skiing.  When you're earning your turns, I reckon the ski:hike ratio highly favors the latter.  Not that anything is wrong with that though.  I guess if you have a snowmobile it changes the equation, but then you'd need to drill for oil in Alaska to fuel the thing.

 


I think the point is that some people don't guage their skiing experience by how many vertical feet they skied, but by the quality of of the terrain they skied.

post #92 of 143
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Just curious?  How many vert ft of skiing can you get in a day on the public owned free stuff?  If you've got the $$$ I say spend it on a lift pass so you get spend your day skiing instead of hiking.  I guess it all boils down to what like more- hiking or skiing.  When you're earning your turns, I reckon the ski:hike ratio highly favors the latter.  Not that anything is wrong with that though.  I guess if you have a snowmobile it changes the equation, but then you'd need to drill for oil in Alaska to fuel the thing.

 

 

for someone who is touring sure they want to make as many runs as possible,but its about getting the 'best" runs possible. -2-3 couple thousand vertical runs of untracked powder on steep slopes, is much better than a zillon runs on a icey bumped up piste. also most likely SFB is much better shape than you.  Also going up the hill aint the worst thing in the world as some make it out to be. I enjoy going up the hill for the same reasons I like riding bikes or taking random hikes in cool places.
 

post #93 of 143

My pet peeve about my home resort is when people underestimate its steepness and/or snow quality. Or overestimate it. I'm the only one who really understands.

post #94 of 143
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Originally Posted by BushwackerinPA View Post



 

for someone who is touring sure they want to make as many runs as possible,but its about getting the 'best" runs possible. -2-3 couple thousand vertical runs of untracked powder on steep slopes, is much better than a zillon runs on a icey bumped up piste. also most likely SFB is much better shape than you.  Also going up the hill aint the worst thing in the world as some make it out to be. I enjoy going up the hill for the same reasons I like riding bikes or taking random hikes in cool places.
 

 

I get the quality vs quantity thing, but I think a season pass at Snowbird gets you the best of both worlds.  

 

And though not necessarily high on the gnar factor, I find the Powder Pig helmet cam videos to be pretty good.  

 

And though Skifishbum may be in better shape than me, you should have seen me in my prime!!!   Seiously though, I ski with some ex-world class athletes who are still in excellent shape, and they'd still rather ride the lifts. 

 

post #95 of 143

really aside from telling people they are green when the owner is an earth raper and unchecked would like to disney devolop the entire lcc.

 Snowbird has crappy bc acess the gates are rarely open aside from the bookends gate to blah. i was just poking fun of bwpa because I think he meant to say the best resort not moutain if you look around the mountains it doesn't take much to realise the amountof terain serviced by lifts is pretty meager. I'm not saying human powered skiing is better it's a pretty big commitment. IMO nothing makes you a better skier than skiing and spending an~ hour per k climbing cuts into the skiing. I try to find a balance beteen turn earning and vert racking and having a pass for 30 days at every UT resort in exchange for  ~ 4 hours a week on the interebz and a crew of strong motivated experienced touring partners including my mrs. is the best of both worlds. Now if we could replace pcmr ith revelstoke I'd be stylin. As for upp I was poking fun of him cause I thought his posts were coming off as kind pompous e douche. Not that I've never done that . I hope he has thick skin and a sense of humor cause damn he gots muscles and could easily crush my girly man self. I just get a kick out of the bird zealots and anytime someone refers to skiers or themselves as atheletes I chuckle

So add as many of these  to my posts as  to not take the webz cereal

post #96 of 143
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Originally Posted by UGASkiDawg View Post


 

 

 

You lose all credibility when you even mention Winter Park and Flatstone in the same breath as Snowbird.  Get real there is almost nothing at Winter Park (Geoff's Chute and few others) that even compare the steepness of the blues at Snowbird.  You are nuts......the catwalks at Snowbird are steaper than anything at Keystone.  Winter Park or really Mary Jane is nice place to ski bumps but super steep it is not.  Snowbird is more consistently steep than any place I've ever skied with 2 clear exceptions (Jackson and Squaw) I am sure there are others but those are the only two in my not inconsiderable travels. 

 

 

I personally don't decide what resort to ski at by the steepness of it but you cannot realistically compare more than a few places with the Bird in terms of steepness.


 


 

 

Almost every single black run on the mary jane side would be catagorized as a double black if you used Snowbirds rating system.  Sorry, but I have skied both resorts several times.....    Maybe you just think the bird is steep because they lable every single run with a black and double black.  I was and still am unimpressed.  ,   .     


PS.  THATS THE POINT OF MENTIONING WINTERPARK,  it's not that steep and neither are most of the double blacks at snowbird...   Maybe you should go back to snowbird now that you are all grown up..
 


Edited by pdiddy - 10/2/10 at 10:57pm
post #97 of 143
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Originally Posted by volantaddict View Post


 
I am not a Cali skier,  from Colorado....    Skied Utah, wyoming, Cali, montana,   Good enough?   still doesn't dispute the fact that snowbirds rating system is crap. 
post #98 of 143
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Originally Posted by UtahPowderPig View Post


 


 

"Solitude and Brighton have way better snow", HAHAHA, that's a good one!  Best laugh I've had all day.  No they ABSOLUTELY DO NOT, it's obvious you don't know what you're talking about, in your first post, all you talk about is "bumps" anyway.  You clearly don't know powder.

 

 

"Better", nope not plenty there's MAYBE one or two, that's it, and it's a MAYBE.

 

 

No I don't.  I look at how much snow they get, because I don't want to go to a lame mountain with no powder and only bump runs.  But then again, I haven't taken a ski trip since I moved to Utah 6 winters ago.  I don't need to, I live 10 minutes from a ski hill that consistently has some of the best powder skiing in the country.  If you're dening that, you clearly are clueless.

 

 

I highly doubt Snowbird labels runs differently depending on what part of the mountain it is, like you were suggesting, so no you aren't using my own words, you're muddying the waters.  But it doesn't matter anyway, the mountain is the mountain no matter what sign is place on it, LOL.

 

I suggest you go find an icy mountain with lots of bumps and stay away from my mountain covered with the greatest snow on earth.


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Your entire post seems to be about everything except for the real content of my original post, which is Snowbirds rating system is a joke.  I notice you say nothing about that fact.   Or you just like patting yourself on the back everytime you ski those 30 degree black runs.  lol!   wow!


 

post #99 of 143
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Originally Posted by BushwackerinPA View Post




you dont know snowbird.

 

tigertail ends with 35 degree pitch for 1000 feet above thunderchair. that solidly black. I have seen a person fall from the top to bottom. 

 

also they are 'avy gates" everywhere marked doubleblack. They are not always steep though but some are quite steep. but other like black forest are a green run. 

 

lastly come one brighton and solitude might have snow that last longer but everything in utah gets more sun beat than snowbird. Snowbird is the only mountain in utah with vast exapansions of north facing steep terrain.


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I pretty sure I skied almost everything all the times I have been there.   its a great mountain, but the rating system is a joke.   everyone here seems to be deflecting my original post to other issues, instead of just admitting the ratings are over rated.   oh and 35 degrees for a thousand feet, check out A basin, pallavacini (spelling) it's about 45 degrees and 1000 feet long.  ,  north pole, corner chute,  those are actually double blacks.    Not saying A basin or winter park are better resorts, just talking about ratings. 

post #100 of 143
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I pretty sure I skied almost everything all the times I have been there.   its a great mountain, but the rating system is a joke.   everyone here seems to be deflecting my original post to other issues, instead of just admitting the ratings are over rated.   oh and 35 degrees for a thousand feet, check out A basin, pallavacini (spelling) it's about 45 degrees and 1000 feet long.  ,  north pole, corner chute,  those are actually double blacks.    Not saying A basin or winter park are better resorts, just talking about ratings. 



Tiger tail is single black.

post #101 of 143

The reason I mentioned Winter park is BECAUSE it is a family friendly resort and Does not have that much extreme terrrain according to their rating systems!   That is the point,  if we were to use the rating system of Snowturd and paint it on Winterpark the map would be covered in double blacks all of the sudden, (and in my opinion shouldn't be)  THAT IS THE POINT.     Clearly you have never skied runs like Cannonbal or any of the runs on the Mary jane side, if you had you would agree that those runs are just as good/steep as most of the double blacks at snowbird, and yet they are labled as blacks as they should be.    .     

 

Now lets talk about steeper resorts, since you clearly want me to name some that I have been to and are under the DILLUSIONS that Snowbird actually has the steepest terrain in the country! .    Ever been to Telluride, Jackson hole,  Arapaho basin (northpoll, palavancini etc..)  Silverton, Beaver creek?  those are some that I can mention, and I know there are plenty more out there.     

 

Even Alta is a little bit more accurate on the ratings although some runs are still blues. 

PS. Brek and copper have some really good steeps now...


Edited by pdiddy - 10/1/10 at 8:32pm
post #102 of 143
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Originally Posted by JoeSchmoe View Post





Tiger tail is single black.

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I was being polite actually,  I am talking about 1000 vertical feet when i say 1000 feet, which Pallivicini is 1000 vertical.....       It was once the longest and steepest inbounds run in north america, not sure who holds that title now, but it is what I would consider a mellow double black, being that it's just long and steep and doesn't have any mandatory airs except for every single bump... smile.gif      Next time you ski snowbird ask yourself, is this really a double black??   Not to say that they don't have double blacks, as they do have some great double blacks, but most runs are not. 


Edited by pdiddy - 10/1/10 at 3:05pm
post #103 of 143

My pet peeve at Snowbowl is that every year when they blow snow on the Bowl Outrun (which is needful as it is the highest traffic passage on the mountain, being the spout that the entirety of the bowls funnel into), they stop before there is an adequate base to carry through the season, and invariably, come spring, it ends up wearing through to the ground. In spite of this happening every year, the next year they insist early in the season that they have blown enough snow there, and then tell us that they can't groom the bumps off of it because there isn't enough snow there yet.

 

As a long time Snowbowl employee once said, "The things we hate about The Bowl, are the things we love about The Bowl." By this he meant that the sometimes questionable management drives away enough people that it keeps the place from being too crowded.

post #104 of 143
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Originally Posted by BushwackerinPA View Post



 

for someone who is touring sure they want to make as many runs as possible,but its about getting the 'best" runs possible. -2-3 couple thousand vertical runs of untracked powder on steep slopes, is much better than a zillon runs on a icey bumped up piste. also most likely SFB is much better shape than you.  Also going up the hill aint the worst thing in the world as some make it out to be. I enjoy going up the hill for the same reasons I like riding bikes or taking random hikes in cool places.

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Dude, although we usually don't agree, I think that we can agree that people who don't BC ski, just don't get it.    They don't understand that awesome feeling you get skiing down what you just earned, not to mention you get to ski the steepest terrain you will ever ski and the best snow.    they will never get it unless they do it. 
 

post #105 of 143
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Originally Posted by volantaddict View Post

 

As a long time Snowbowl employee once said, "The things we hate about The Bowl, are the things we love about The Bowl." By this he meant that the sometimes questionable management drives away enough people that it keeps the place from being too crowded.



Yea you could substitute Timberline WV for Snowbowl and say the same thing. It's one of the things that makes "us" special.

post #106 of 143

whistler and the 2010-2011 edge card: no longer is there that free 1 bonus lift ticket you'd normall get for the  5 ticket edge card purchase ...(or 2 day free ticket bonus if you bought the 10 day edge card.)

 

I just confirmed on the phone with whistler when I was phoned as I was considering upgrading from my a 5 to a 10 day edge care...NOT anymore that is.

 

...even worse: if I did upgrade to 10 edge card (from my current 5)  I was told that I would LOSE that 1 bonus ticket that i got (I purchased it at the end of last season for this season so this bonus was still in effect)......

 

...sure those 1 or 2 bonus tickets were to be used prior to Dec 22 (or so) as a preseason warmup...but what the hell free tickets at $50-60 a pop are still free tickets....sure glad I bought mine last season  instead of starting from scratch for this season.

 

bummer


Edited by canali - 10/3/10 at 8:53pm
post #107 of 143

So my home resort is Mission Ridge near Wenatchee WA. My biggest pet peeve is that they do their night skiing on freaking Saturday only for a limited amount of time. Most of the people are working Monday thru Friday and some of them I am sure would love to get off work at 3 and go hit some night skiing after work including me myself. Now, when I ski entire Saturday during the day from 9 to 5, I am not too exited at the end of the day to hit the night skiing ( although,  I usually do). But I would love for them to keep night skiing open several days during the week so peole who work durign the day can ski after work. I honestly not sure who the hell skis there at night on Saturday if you can ski during entire day anyway. Here, I said it. Now I will stop typing.

 

Oh, never mind, here comes another one,

 

Every Friday at around 2 or 3 pm they shut down Liberator (chair 2) and each time it is a different reason. I was there most of the Fridays last year. what's up with that?

Rental shop has few girls in there that act like you owe them a big deal.. snobby attitudes.. not acceptable...

 

Motorhome - good topic bro, people can come up and publicly bitch about their resorts. I do love Mission Ridge!

post #108 of 143


 

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 You have probably been a top expert since before difficulty rating have been in use. If you had learned to ski more recently or if you had skied with someone who is not a top expert, you would understand why some of us care. LOL-ing just thinking what a pompous ass you are.
 

 

Yeah, I'm a pompous ass because I think it's silly that people actually care what the signs say.  LOL, whatever.
 

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Your entire post seems to be about everything except for the real content of my original post, which is Snowbirds rating system is a joke.  I notice you say nothing about that fact.   Or you just like patting yourself on the back everytime you ski those 30 degree black runs.  lol!   wow!

 

You're clueless.  I did say something about your comment the rating system, I said: the rating system is meaningless to me, I don't look at signs, I ski the mountain.  Who gives a crap what color the fricken sign is, LOL. 

 

 

LOL


Edited by UtahPowderPig - 10/13/10 at 1:52pm
post #109 of 143

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Originally Posted by skifishbum View Post
I also suggest that there is no way your getting up to the turd in 10 minutes anytime it snows significantly.

 

Yup, I sure do.  That's why I live where I live.

 

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Originally Posted by skifishbum View Post
did you spend last april 6th The deepest inbounds day  sitting in your car


Nope, I only sat in my car once last season.  The canyon isn't closed after 8:30 nearly as much as people make it out to be.

 


 

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Originally Posted by skifishbum View Post
Are you the dude that posts the boston helmet cam viddies? I suggest you hit ol bushwhacky up for some lessons I don't think you know powder quite as well as you think.


Now you're just trying to be a jerk.  Fine, I'll stop posting my videos here.

post #110 of 143
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Originally Posted by JoeSchmoe View Post

 

And though not necessarily high on the gnar factor, I find the Powder Pig helmet cam videos to be pretty good. 


I won't be posting them here anymore.  All they do is get me and my favorite ski hill attacked.  What's the point?  I've been called a pompous ass by a complete stranger who criticizes me and the ski hill where I call home. 

 

I don't post my videos because I want to show off that I skied a slope that was X color or X steepness.  I POST MY VIDEOS BECAUSE I LOVE SKIING and I expected others here to understand because they love skiing too.  But it seems people here are just insecure in their skiing ability and need something to brag about.

 

Well to everybody who has criticized either my mountain or me, if you're ever up at snowbird and you see a 6'8" 340 pound strongman/powerlifter, walk up to me and tell me to my face how I can't ski and need lessons or that snowbird sucks.

post #111 of 143


 

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Originally Posted by UtahPowderPig View Post


 if you're ever up at snowbird and you see a 6'8" 340 pound strongman/powerlifter, walk up to me and tell me to my face how I can't ski and need lessons or that snowbird sucks.


I try and do that at least once at every resort I go to.  If possible before noon...

post #112 of 143

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I try and do that at least once at every resort I go to.  If possible before noon...


It wasn't a joke.

post #113 of 143

My pet peeve has to do with just about every ski area I've ever been to. They all cry about the lack of growth in skiing and yet don't do anything to promote skiing to kids and families. An adult ticket is $62 and if you're 13 yrs old you're apparently an adult-That's ridiculous, maybe we should let them vote too. BTW if you're only 12 well then you get a hefty discount of $15 and only have to pay $47. Then they let the Super Seniors who have all the damn money and been skiing since longthongs only pay $12....something isn't right here. Why not create skiers from 7-16yrs old, get them hooked on the cheap and don't price them out of the game. Then they'll figure out a way to get up there.  

post #114 of 143
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Originally Posted by UtahPowderPig View Post

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It wasn't a joke.


Mine was.  But seriously think about it.  What if he walks up to the wrong 6'8" 340 lb dude and says that.  I guy could get hurt doing that!

post #115 of 143

I think the "right" guy is planning on hurting you anyway.....
 

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Mine was.  But seriously think about it.  What if he walks up to the wrong 6'8" 340 lb dude and says that.  I guy could get hurt doing that!

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I won't be posting them here anymore.  All they do is get me and my favorite ski hill attacked.  What's the point?  I've been called a pompous ass by a complete stranger who criticizes me and the ski hill where I call home. 

 

I don't post my videos because I want to show off that I skied a slope that was X color or X steepness.  I POST MY VIDEOS BECAUSE I LOVE SKIING and I expected others here to understand because they love skiing too.  But it seems people here are just insecure in their skiing ability and need something to brag about.

 

Well to everybody who has criticized either my mountain or me, if you're ever up at snowbird and you see a 6'8" 340 pound strongman/powerlifter, walk up to me and tell me to my face how I can't ski and need lessons or that snowbird sucks.


UPP please keep posting your vids. I for one loved them last year, I'm sure I'm not alone. Your vids plus the snow reports/forcasts even got me to make a trip to Snowbird mid April last year from NYC. I had a great week, thanks for the inspiration. I agree with you that trail difficulty ratings don't mean squat. The whole rating system is based relative to the mountain you are skiing, if someone doesn't understand that they're not to bright.. This guy would really go off if he saw the black & double black trail ratings at Okemo or Stratton here in the east. I for one loved your vids & appreciate your honest ski reports. This site would lose a great contributor if you stopped posting them. As for the guys who like beating their chests, F-em, they do no good for anyone. Skiing is about having fun & you seem to love it as do I. If I ever make it out there again & see you I will surely say hi.

post #117 of 143



 

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Originally Posted by steamboat1 View Post



 


UPP please keep posting your vids. I for one loved them last year, I'm sure I'm not alone. Your vids plus the snow reports/forcasts even got me to make a trip to Snowbird mid April last year from NYC. I had a great week, thanks for the inspiration. I agree with you that trail difficulty ratings don't mean squat. The whole rating system is based relative to the mountain you are skiing. This guy would really go off if he saw the black & double black trail ratings at Okemo or Stratton here in the east. I for one loved your vids & appreciate your honest ski reports. This site would lose a great contributor if you stopped posting them. As for the guys who like beating their chests, F-em, they do no good for anyone. Skiing is about having fun & you seem to love it as do I.
 

 

 

You show the joy of skiing in your postings; it does not have to be all gnar, all the time.  Please don't stop if you want to share with us.  Found your strongman pics very interesting (you Sir are one big SOB), and I promise not to pull on your cape if we meet in the tram

 

post #118 of 143
Thread Starter 

It has been GREAT to see the true lovers of skiing post their opinions on what they see as their Pet Peeve about the resort they love  without out all the hate and tension trying to egg someone else  into useless conversation .  

 

Knowing that this season I get to travel more than ever before to other resorts this forum has given me the ability to think about other folks insite to the place they love to ski the most . An honest opinion gos along way in my travel decision .  Please keep them coming ~  and for heaven sakes   remember we all have one thing in common     we love to ski !   Leave the hate trail at home !

post #119 of 143

Well, all areas have good and bad points. The one universal thing I noticed that annoys me is when people mess up the restrooms.  Skiers and boarders in a hurry just wizz on the seats or miss the target and it gets on the floor. Some areas do a good job of keeping the restrooms fairly clean. Some don't and it gets nasty. 

post #120 of 143
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Originally Posted by UtahPowderPig View Post

 

I don't post my videos because I want to show off that I skied a slope that was X color or X steepness.  I POST MY VIDEOS BECAUSE I LOVE SKIING and I expected others here to understand because they love skiing too.  But it seems people here are just insecure in their skiing ability and need something to brag about.

 


You have my support as well.

 

Until last season I didn't write much on here about where I skied, afraid of messing up the goods.  Then I realized all the good information that is shared on this site asking for nothing in return.  I have learned a lot about a lot on this site, not just ski conditions.  Skiing may not be a team sport, but it is fun to share!

Thanks,

JF

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