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What is your pet peeve about the resort you ski at

post #1 of 143
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For me it is that a good part of where I like to ski I have to hike to because it is not serviced by the chair lift . Yes I know every yeahoo on the planet would be there with me if the location was serviced by a chair but as I get older I'm not wanting to hike as much . If they serviced the location they would provide avalanch control also . Boy that would keep my family off my back concerning certin areas I ski.

post #2 of 143

It's too damn far away!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I guess that's more of a peeve against myself than the resort =)

post #3 of 143

My biggest pet peeve is how when I go skiing, it's almost always all hardpack, and everybody talks about how awesome the snow was 2 weeks ago, and then the DAY I have to leave to get back to work and stuff, the snow starts dumping again. I somehow miss the powder boat almost every time. Grrrrr. Totally not the resorts' faults, though. Thankfully I finally lucked out with Wolf Creek last Spring. I hear they're consistently good for powder, though. I'll have to go back someday for sure.

 

Another pet peeve of mine is the parking situations at some of the big name resorts. I remember the free parking at Copper Mountain was NOT fun. Really far, and then you have to make your way through the shops and stuff. It felt like an amusement park from hell. I slipped on some nasty black ice in the parking lot trying to catch a shuttle, and split my lip open with my skis. Had to spend that morning at the ER for stitches. That's when I came to really appreciate places like Loveland, Wolf Creek, and other places that you can hop out of your car, strap on your boots, and hit the chairlift right right away. Good stuff. Don't get me wrong. I completely understand the marketing and business sense of the layout of Copper and such resorts, but I still can't stand it.

post #4 of 143
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Originally Posted by bumpfreaq View Post

It's too damn far away!

 

 

I guess that's more of a peeve against myself than the resort =)


I agree 100%!!! Haha. I need to move.

post #5 of 143

I'm going with my home resort, Silver Mountain, ID and my home away from home resort, China Peak/Sierra Summit, CA.

 

First, Silver Mountain.  I think a long time ago, they cleansed themselves, at the request of their customers, of a necessary evil...Cat Tracks.  They used to field alot of complaints that they had far too many of them.  They've since stopped grooming a couple of them that in my opinion are completely necessary to get too and fro on that mountain.  The top 2 being KP Road that used to wind down Kellogg Peak all the way from the top of chair 2, and Crossover, the easy way from the Lodge to Chair 4 when lower 4 wasn't open. 

 

I think KP Road was needed to make that mountain a lot more interesting to beginners, or an easy way down at the end of the day when people decide they are tired.  I realize that for the last 9 years or so, the terrain park cuts right through the middle of where KP Road used to be, but I've always been convinced the Park should be somewhere else entirely anyway.  Upper Gold maybe, starting from the bottom of Hercules and extending all the way until Gold reenters Tamarack.  KP Road was also a nice access point to the trees if you cut off from North Star or Northern Lights.  Now it's a pain to sludge down the ungroomed track to drop the trees towards chair 2.

 

Crossover has a million reasons for being there.  Half the time, Lower 4 isn't open, and on a powder day, it was much faster to ski crossover right away, then go all the way to chair 2, up top, around Kellogg Peak and finally down to Midway.  Sure nobody good likes to ski cat tracks, but that was flat out the fastest way to get there.  Also any time you drop down Rendezvous, Mother, North Face, Centennial, Ridge or what have you, it was needed to get back to Midway rather than going all the way to the bottom or back to 2.  Stupid to get rid of these cat tracks!   Boondoggle, while not as efficient as Crossover, should also be there.  And while we're on topic, they need to start grooming Lower Centennial again!

 

China Peak, I have only been skiing it for one season, but it's my new home resort, so I get to complain.  I think my biggest gripe there, is that the best terrain for experts there, on the far skiers right of the mountain, I believe called "Waterfall" by locals, has one of the most annoying cat tracks in the entire universe to get out of.  This area has cliffs, drops, rolls, steeps, trees, you name it it has it, but is basically a long flat road to get out of, that no amount of speed will get you down.  The Silver Mountain equivelant to this cat track, would be taking the cat shop access road back to Midway from the bottom of the Meadows, rather than Assay Road all the way to the bottom, which is actually fast and fun.  China Peak desperately needs a lift down in this area.  In fact...I happen to know of a small resort in North Idaho that has a long double chair that never gets used!.....hmmmmm.  Silver...are you listening?  If you're not going to use Chair 5...wanna sell it to someone who will actually needs it?

post #6 of 143

And speaking of chairlifts not getting used, that reminds me of a gripe I have with the mountain I learned at....Mt. Spokane.

 

What's with not using Chair 2 during the daylight hours?  Having to cat track all the way from the base of 2 to chair 1, then again around the top of the hill to get back to 2, is really a waste of time.  Please bring 2 back!

 

And Keystone, CO?  I haven't been to you in 7 years I know.  But I couldn't help but notice your night skiing map for last year.  That lower right corner is looking awefully dark.  What's up with that?  Skiing Area 51 and all the way to the bottom of Lakeside is way more fun than heading back to River Run for the long ride up.  So ticket prices went up and available night acreage went down?

post #7 of 143

I hate the runout at Mt Hood Meadows you need to negotaite after every run in Private Reserve (the REAL best terrain at Meadows). It's a long runout, and then a walk back to the lift. That being said it keeps all the gapers away. So it's a necessary evil

post #8 of 143

The weekend lift tickets are too cheap.

post #9 of 143

Ha that's a good one.

 

My pet peave is grooming.

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The Hellfire lift (officially Chair 7/Big Creek Express).  Because it cuts off the circulation in my legs by the top by not having a foot rest and it's pretty slow.  On the other hand, there's never a line, attested to by the smell from the lift shack.

 

Second MINOR complaint.  Two lots are now pay lots.  Not that they are lots I used to use, but it just seems excessive and prevents me from moving my locker up to the other building where the lockers are cheaper.  I'd have to use a shuttle to get to my locker because of the climb from the free lots.  And apparently if you decided to get season passes for those lots, they may end up full!!!  And you'll have to climb anyway! 

 

These are minor peeves.  I really don't have any peeves about my resort.  Some might complain about the fog, but that would be arguing with Ullr and god, etc., and is certainly out of the resort's control.  And, it's part of the "snowmaking process" here.  It protects and it actually produces (I have pictures!) the base during some periods.  Oh, wait...the locker prices....  HEY!  The locker prices are too high!

post #11 of 143

Sudbury: Onaping and Adanack - no bar at the base for an apres ski pint of ale.

Sudbury: Onaping - no snow - mogul runs are always full of gravel.  No chair lift.

 

Kitchener/Waterloo - Grooming fresh fallen snow right after a storm, so there's no "substitute for powder"  to ski on.  I don't recall there being a bar there either.

 

Ontario Canada in General:

- hills too small, no really steep sections, can't get any real speed up - can only make two really sweet turns per run on SGs, even at Blue Mountain.

- no real off-piste skiing.

 

 

 

post #12 of 143

Have two home resorts.

 

lst, Lookout Mt.on the Idaho/Montana Border:   When I get there early (which I always do) I have to park 8 ft from the snow and 30 ft from the lift.  Long ass walk.

 

2nd Silver Mt. on a powder day I have to strain my neck when gooing out the back of the ski school and sometimes hurt the old neck straining to see if there is any patrol around before I beeline down to the trees on skiers left at Terrible Ediths, drop onto the rd and duck the rope on lower TE's and ski just some great powder - alone/unless my bud Van is there too.

 

Long walks, strained necks and all those people are just nerve racking.

post #13 of 143


Overall sarcasm detected...but you don't really ski those trees alone do you?  Nobody ever goes down there looking for injured/deceased folks.  Especially if it's closed. (which is almost always)
 

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Have two home resorts.

 

lst, Lookout Mt.on the Idaho/Montana Border:   When I get there early (which I always do) I have to park 8 ft from the snow and 30 ft from the lift.  Long ass walk.

 

2nd Silver Mt. on a powder day I have to strain my neck when gooing out the back of the ski school and sometimes hurt the old neck straining to see if there is any patrol around before I beeline down to the trees on skiers left at Terrible Ediths, drop onto the rd and duck the rope on lower TE's and ski just some great powder - alone/unless my bud Van is there too.

 

Long walks, strained necks and all those people are just nerve racking.

post #14 of 143

Issues with Big Sky (1) No chair to the top on the Liberty Bowl side of Lone Peak. This only needs to be a fixed grip double chair. It would allow Lone Peak access without the ski around and wait required for the Tram on many days it's the only wait on the mountain. (2) Season Pass one of the highest cost in the country. (3) No On-Mountain restaurant on the Lone Peak side. (4) No way for non-skiers to get to the top of Lone Peak for one of the best views in the Rockies. (see # 1)

Overall a great Mountain and a great development but I'd like to see more attention to the intermediate skier and the non skier visitor.

post #15 of 143

Two I can think of right now about Squaw:

 

1. The obvious: they have to close almost everything when it's windy.

2. Squaw Kids is chaos in the mornings, and you need to call multiple times far in advance for reservations.

post #16 of 143

A lot of places:  The lift doesn't go all the way to the top.

post #17 of 143
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A lot of places:  The lift doesn't go all the way to the top.



Or along those same lines...the run doesn't go all the way to the bottom...

post #18 of 143

A few places:  The fastest run joins a green run a long way from the lift, also green runs that meander down the mountain, crossing high speed runs several times like $o.

post #19 of 143
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Originally Posted by bumpfreaq View Post

It's too damn far away!

 

 

 

I guess that's more of a peeve against myself than the resort =)


Nice! Mine is similar. It's too cold and not enough snow, but I think that's my fault for living in the east.

 

Aside from that, at my home "mountain" where I teach:

- the liftees are completely useless and do no lift line management, so there's often 3-4 lines of people all crammed together and it's the luck of the draw in terms of whether your part of the "line" is quick or super slow.

- it seems like the groomers are already idling and ready to go while the snow is falling because it would be a travesty if we had to ski on powder.

- they typically stop making snow by the middle of January even in winters like last year where it basically didn't snow after the middle of January. By mid-Feb I was tired of ice. 

 

My home recreational mountain is Mt Tremblant, which is run much better. Although they also tend to stop making snow toward the middle or end of Jan. But otherwise pretty great skiing despite the cold/lack of snow.

 

Elsbeth

post #20 of 143

I guess I'm the only one who feels this way, but my complaint is over development.  First and foremost is the destruction of wilderness in the Green Mountains - Golf courses.  Stowe, right at the bottom of the mountain!  WTF.  What used to be a trip to quaint VT is now a Coney Island.  Ultra-slick base lodges and the lack of skiing atmosphere.

 

And second, the over grooming and destruction of natural terrain.  By this I don't mean winter grooming, but removal of rocks and natural terrain.  Another great example is Stowe, the front four - bulldozer smooth.  If you are going to have snow making then you pretty much have to flatten and smooth.  It really sucks.

 

That's one reason I like Mad River and Magic.  Natural terrain is where it's at.

post #21 of 143
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green runs that meander down the mountain, crossing high speed runs several times like $o.


Right on Ghost, a very common problem in Eastern Mtns.

 

At the home mtn. where I also work (a large Vermont resort), a significant pet peeve is that key runs are on race hold even though there aren't any racers or racing activities anywhere around for entire days. In addition, said runs are counted as open on the daily trail reports. To my way of thinking, if the trails are not available to the general skiing public they should NOT be included in the daily trail counts.

 

I certainly catch flack from our guests frequently over this.

 

Anyway, my bitch

 

Later

 

Mr Haz
 

post #22 of 143

The wife and I left our "home"mt, (NY State owned, north of Albany), a year back due to the terrain/lift closings midweek. I guess they don't give a damn about the midweekers. We now ski central VT and love it! Bit longer drive, but well worth the time.

post #23 of 143
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Ha that's a good one.

 

My pet peave is grooming.


Actually, I'm dead serious. Too crowded on the weekends, too empty during the week.

post #24 of 143

The area has been so overly family oriented for so many years that people think nothing of pulling into the unloading area and wanting to leaving their car there "just for a few minutes", or pull in and then proceed to dress their kids and make multiple trips to the lodge with their gear.  Some of them, actually far too many, carry giant coolers into the lodge and park them on tables which is supposed to be a no-no, but they do it anyway.  I have removed more than a few so I could sit down and eat. 

post #25 of 143

construction of water parks instead of on mt. expansion.  I know, I know, 4 season family resorts..... wishing it was a different order.

post #26 of 143

Sounds alot like your taking about me!!!!

 

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A lot of places:  The lift doesn't go all the way to the top.

post #27 of 143

#1:  Agonizingly slow fixed grip lifts which slow and stop constantly due to understaffing, beginners and children on every lift, paranoia over liability, using the stop button instead of effective lift line management to resolve loading issues.

 

#2:  Jerks who purposefully throw trash off the lifts.

 

#3:  Those who insist in sharing their exceptionally bad taste in music with everyone else in the parking lot, or worse, on the slope.

 

 

 

post #28 of 143

The lift operators don't regularly watch skiers get off of the lift.  The ones at the bottom assist people getting on the lift, but sometimes don't.  You're dealing with a quick moving fixed grip quad and they don't even touch the chair as it comes around the bull wheel. It really slams you hard.  I'm always polite and thank the lifties for their help (when they give it), so I don't think they're doing it to be nasty.  I've never seen any other ski area with anything like this lack of service.

post #29 of 143
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The lift operators don't regularly watch skiers get off of the lift.  The ones at the bottom assist people getting on the lift, but sometimes don't.  You're dealing with a quick moving fixed grip quad and they don't even touch the chair as it comes around the bull wheel. It really slams you hard.  I'm always polite and thank the lifties for their help (when they give it), so I don't think they're doing it to be nasty.  I've never seen any other ski area with anything like this lack of service.


You haven't been to Europe, have you?

post #30 of 143
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Two I can think of right now about Squaw:

 

1. The obvious: they have to close almost everything when it's windy.

2. Squaw Kids is chaos in the mornings, and you need to call multiple times far in advance for reservations.


Agreed on both.  

 

1. Although I've also been caught, skiing down from High Camp with two four-year-olds and a seven-year-old, in a windstorm so severe that the kids were blown backwards and had to shelter in place until Patrol could arrive.  So while closing is bad, not closing can be worse.

 

2. Which is why it's sooooo much better to have your kids on team.

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