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New Sticks this year...anybody else?

post #1 of 21
Thread Starter 

After a few years on Gotamas, Mantras and Bros, I got some new sticks; Also new stuff for the wife, one kid and ordered some SkiLogiks for my Telechick friend:

 

L-R  For Me:

186 Skilogik Howitzer

178 Dynastar Sultan 85

 

 For Telechick friend

 168 Skilogik Goddess

 For wife: (tele mount)

  165 Line Prophit Flite

For daughter:

   125 Armada Bantam

The Ski Logiks were retail, everything else- 60-70% off $.

  I got the Ski Logiks without demoing because they had the highest test scores I've ever seen from both Keetly  and Freeskier, pretty much two opposites.... I'll let you know how it works out.

 

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post #2 of 21

Mr Crab,

 

Dd you demo the Skilogik Howitzer, or other Skilogik models?

 

Real skiers listed the Skilogik Ullr's Chariot as SKI OF TE YEAR. 101mm waist

 

Anyone demo this ski? 

Bueller, Bueller?

post #3 of 21
Thread Starter 

No demo. The Howitzer has the shape, width (110) and rocker (really just early rise) I'm looking for and Freeskier gave it the highest score in their whole test- 18.5- higher than the JJ, S7, Bent Chetler, Katana, so yeah, I took a chance.  Good luck finding a demo pair, anyway. The Goddesses are Uller's Chariot in a female version, but they're not noodles. Keelty tied them with the U.C's for his ski of the year.

post #4 of 21

sure are purdy....  please post up reviews and pics of the profile. Don't know why ski manufacturers won't show the profiles of thier skis....

 

Hope you get plenty of pow this season

 

post #5 of 21

I am trying to widdle down my "quiver" to just two pairs this season, my Sultan 85's for most days and my Hellbents for everything else.  However, if the right deal comes long...

 

I would really like to try some of the Skilogik stuff.  I think they are among the best looking skis on the market.

post #6 of 21
Quote:
Originally Posted by cstreu1026 View Post

I am trying to widdle down my "quiver" to just two pairs this season, my Sultan 85's for most days and my Hellbents for everything else.  However, if the right deal comes long...

 

I would really like to try some of the Skilogik stuff.  I think they are among the best looking skis on the market.


 

Skilogics are pretty, but I like the real Scottybobs better.  Although, the abalone inlay is insanely cool.
 

post #7 of 21
Thread Starter 

Sorry it took so long.  Howitzer- Traditional camber, early rise. Pic 2 is with pre- rocker Gotama. (186SL, 183goat)

 

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Edited by Mr. Crab - 9/18/10 at 6:46pm
post #8 of 21

I just bought the Chariots, also w/out demoing based on reviews, and I'm trying to figure out what bindings to buy.  Mr. Crab or others, any thoughts?

post #9 of 21

Just bot some MX88's yesterday, no demoing, OQS'er this season

 

post #10 of 21

I bought Volkl AC30 on post-clearance sale last spring ($525 w/bindings). Looking forward to skiing on them this year!

post #11 of 21

Ordering 2010 Katanas on Monday still on the fence between 183 or 176. they come with M14 bindings(not mounted). never thought I would aquire a "quiver" but I'll end up with..

Atomic MEX for crudbusting/ hard cond. God forbid, groomers.

Rossi Bandit Quad 100 w/Dukes and skins.

Katanas for all the huge dumps coming our way this season and cats, this is the year!!

post #12 of 21
Thread Starter 

 I got some last year's Sollie Z12s online for $129. It's a good utility binding and very light. I do a lot of hiking so weight is important. Sth 12 are beefier if you do a lot of air. I never set the bindings over 10, so for my weight (165) 12's are fine. Check the shops for closeouts too. Come October everything will be list price again.

post #13 of 21

There is an unscratched pair of Nordi Hell Diver CAs' in the garage being trained by my other skis.  No demo, but a great buy.  Thanks Phil and SJ.

post #14 of 21

My 2002 Völkl P50 F1s are still new enough to me, because I haven't skied them much since I finally got bindings for them last sping (skis were on sale, bindings not).

post #15 of 21

I have some 178 Ski Logik Ullr's Chariots that I got at the end of last season.  I only got one day on them in mixed conditions before winter fizzled out so have been waiting to ski them more before writing up a review, but I can tell you this: They are FUN!!!  I had never been on such a wide ski (101) with such a small turning radius (15m) and during the few runs that I DID get they were more than happy to make whatever sized turn I asked them too.  Here's a little bit of a writeup I did about them after my one and only day:

 

 

 

Quote:
The late April day at Jay Peak, Vermont provided temperatures hovering right around the low thirties and a mixture of all types of precipitation across the mountain.  On the summit it was snowing lightly, although slushing may be a better term for it.  What was falling was certainly sticking, and sticky... and there were three to four inches of it on the ground by the time I got there.  Underneath were the remnants of the last thaw/freeze cycle, which were still very much in the freeze side of things.  Turns up top were anything from soft and buttery where the new slush hadn't been hit yet, to hard and scraped off where the masses had already travelled.  As you progressed down the mountain the base got softer and softer, and by the bottom the new precip. was just rain, although thankfully it as mostly just misty, without really very many big drops to speak of.  The combination of warmer temps and the misty conditions actually created some really fun snow, with two inches or so of heavy slush to carve through and nothing to worry about sliding on underneath it.
 
My first impression getting on the skis [aside from how stunningly beautiful they are of course ;) ] was realizing that I had potentially mounted them too far forward.  With the two mounting lines on the ski so far apart (almost 8cm by my measurement!) I took a shot in the dark and mounted my Salomon z12 demo's at +3 cm from the back line.  Standing on the skis I felt like I was farther forward over the tips than I would like to be, and once or twice while skiing them I had to catch myself from being thrown too far forward when coming out of a turn.  Luckily the demo bindings I used are adjustable fore and aft so I may just be able to slide them back to where I want them, but if not they will be getting re-mounted onto the back line before next season.  Not being much of a park skier I don't really ride any truly center-mounted skis, but I couldn't imagine going any farther forward on these than I already am, and there's almost another 5cm to the front line!  
 
Once I got the moving I was really surprised by how stable they felt, even compared with other 100mm skis that I have ridden.  Smashing through the various degrees of slop that I encountered on my way down the hill they very rarely got deflected, and really felt right at home carving small to medium turns on steep, open terrain no matter what was underneath them.  They felt secure underfoot and "popped"  nicely from one turn to the next no matter how hard they were pressured or how much edge angle was used.  It seemed like the more I had to give and the further I bent them through the turn, the more they were ready to give right back.  At 5'7 160 or so I didn't really find a stopping point, as they continued to get more lively and responsive the more energy I put into them.  Another situation where I got a more stable and solid feeling from them than I have from other similarly waisted skis was on landings.  The meager late season conditions didn't allow for anything bigger than a couple of 2-3 foot drops and some berm-launches, but every time I left the ground the transition back down was noticeably incredibly smooth.  There were one or two instances where a ski caught up and hooked away during a landing in a way that I don't feel it would have on a ski with less side-cut, but I'm ready to chalk that up to pilot-error / learning curve.  There's certainly less room for error in ankle positioning than on some wider, straighter skis but I think the immense surface area under the tips and tails somewhat helps to alleviate this and helps provide that stableness as long as your feet are reasonably underneath you.

 

I look forward to getting lots more time on them the season and will write a more comprehensive review once I've had them out in a variety of conditions.  

 

My pair also has demo bindings on it and I'm more than happy to lend them out for tests, I live in Boston and frequently travel to both Northern Vermont and the Mount Washington Valley during ski season so don't hesitate to hit me up and take a few laps with them!!

 

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post #16 of 21
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Crab View Post

 I got some last year's Sollie Z12s online for $129. It's a good utility binding and very light. I do a lot of hiking so weight is important. Sth 12 are beefier if you do a lot of air. I never set the bindings over 10, so for my weight (165) 12's are fine. Check the shops for closeouts too. Come October everything will be list price again.


Ow.  Ya know....

 

http://www.wildsnow.com/articles/at_article_big/at_article_big.html
 

post #17 of 21
Thread Starter 

Yeah, I know. I'm not convinced that most skiers need really high Din bindings unless they race or do huge air. Tyrone Shoelaces was breaking the Z series on landings but I believe the Sths fixed that- if I followed the posts correctly. I'm sure Dukes, etc. are great, but using them just for lift served terrain seems a bit silly at $450 a pop. I have a pair of 179 Bros that my shop (at Alta) put demo Z 10's on. The Bros were blems that the factory sent me for free because they had sold out of the production run the spring I ordered them (this was a few years back).The Z-10s were free too.

I was skeptical at first, but we set them on 9 and have passed them around- some of the guys are quite burly (but under 200) and no tragedies so far. Can't say the same for Markers....

 

Ps. Nice mini review. I like the 183 Bros- those the run from the AK factory...?


Edited by Mr. Crab - 9/20/10 at 4:55am
post #18 of 21

Wait, you only ski lifts but do a lot of hiking?  I am confused.  Yeah, if you are only skiing lifts no need for a touring binding I guess.

post #19 of 21
Thread Starter 

Yep. We hike and traverse a lot in the Wasatch resorts. The visitors complain and want lifts to go up all over, but working for it keeps the powder fresher longer.

post #20 of 21

New skis this year ?  Of course I got new skis this year - I buy new skis more than I buy new underware !

 

Got some Watea 94's for me and Gotama's for my son.

 

The  pics posted show some really sweet looking skis ! Enjoy !

post #21 of 21
Added to the quiver:

- Rossi S3 178
- ON3P Billy Goats 186

These join:

Atomic Snoops 176
Stockli Stormrider Scot Schmidt 178
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