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Does plugged binding holes really affect the ski?

post #1 of 11
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I am looking to purchase a pair of new Atomic Royal Minx skis (2008) for my wife's birthday. The seller has removed the binding track, filled the holes, and drilled new ones to attach Atomic Salomon S7.11 bindings. I am not familiar with the filling and re-drilling of holes for bindings. My fear is that the structural capacity of the ski is compromised. Can anyone reassure me as to this is normal practice and she will not have issues with the ski. Any and all info on this topic would greatly help; call me uneducated in this practice. Thanks everyone!

 

Jake 

 

Pictures of the skis can be seen at:

 

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post #2 of 11

Probably not an issue.  

 

I've heard the "limit" for re-mounting bindings on a ski is Three Times, due to the many holes left behind weakening the ski.   Drilling many, many holes will eventually weaken the ski and make it more prone to breaking or having the binding pull out. 

 

A single re-mount shouldn't be a problem unless a number of new holes were drilled laterally from the existing holes (the new binding may have a wider/narrower screw offset than the old).  This would create a weak spot - especially on a narrow ski.

 

Plugging the old holes properly is important to keep moisture out of the inner ski.  I use two-part epoxy that remains slightly flexible when cured.   Using epoxy means you can even drill new holes halfway into the old holes and still have great holding power.

 

I've remounted bindings up to four times on a single ski and only the last binding mount had an issue (heel-piece started working out - but only because the internal metal retaining-rail had broken putting all the strain on the two back screws { and I continued to ski on it for another month anyway...} ).

 

If you have any concerns about the mount, just put some ski boots on, step into the bindings and lever back and forth forcefully on the carpet for a while.  This creates quite a lot of pulling-leverage so if they hold up, they should be fine.

 

.ma

post #3 of 11

I have broken every rule---drilling holes so close they almost touch, drilling over and over, leaving holes unplugged to fill with water, etc.  No crime is too heinous for my rock skis.

 

Never had a problem.

post #4 of 11

I also have pushed the limits on what is suggested.  I PAID THE PRICE!  I broke one of my Rossi B.C. scratrch's (the white and yellow ones). This was due to me drilling holes too close, laterally.  I also broke the base of the toepiece at the afd, on this particular Rossignol axial 12.

 so i say beware of drilling holes less than 1cm apart, laterally, if you are a fatty , a hard skier , or both.

post #5 of 11

Basically what MichealA said.  IF done right, one remount shouldnt be an issue.  But if he didnt seal the old holes or the new ones properly the skis life span will be severly shortened. 

 

This is one of the most common steps missed with "home mounts".  Working in ski stores you would see skis come in, good skis too, like Volkls with the wood core rotten, such that the structural integrity was such that they couldnt possibly hold a binding.  Skis would be junked.  Happens quicker then you might think, only takes 2-3 years.

post #6 of 11

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icon14.gif   Brand doesn't much matter, just stir it up well with a toothpick or something like that before filling the holes.

post #7 of 11
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Originally Posted by icejakemo View Post

I am looking to purchase a pair of new Atomic Royal Minx skis (2008) for my wife's birthday. The seller has removed the binding track, filled the holes, and drilled new ones to attach Atomic Salomon S7.11 bindings. I am not familiar with the filling and re-drilling of holes for bindings. My fear is that the structural capacity of the ski is compromised. Can anyone reassure me as to this is normal practice and she will not have issues with the ski. Any and all info on this topic would greatly help; call me uneducated in this practice. Thanks everyone!

 

Jake 

 


That doesn't match any definition of the word 'new' I've ever seen.      

 

At the risk of starting yet another  "atomic bindings are worthless" screamfest,  removing binding tracks isn't really 'normal practice' either.

 

post #8 of 11
For your wife I would say it is fine. If it was a race ski I would not touch it. I have seen bad things happen with a bad mount, let alone a remount...
post #9 of 11

Hi Jake

 

The criteria I use is as long as the holes are at least 1cm apart and there is only one set of holes other than the ones you are using then I am happy to remount.

post #10 of 11

When plugging those "old" holes, should I use wood plug or plastic plug? Or it makes no difference?

 

post #11 of 11
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Originally Posted by michaelA View Post

 

I've heard the "limit" for re-mounting bindings on a ski is Three Times, due to the many holes left behind weakening the ski.   Drilling many, many holes will eventually weaken the ski and make it more prone to breaking or having the binding pull out. 

 

 

This is a commonly repeated myth.  Yes, too many holes will eventually weaken the ski, but three (or four or five) sets is not too many. 

 

The real issue is whether the binding to be installed has a screw pattern that lines up with the existing holes (i.e. they need to go where there isn't another hole nearby).  Of course, the more holes, the harder it becomes to find a clean mounting placement.

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