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Help me find a "fun shape" ski

post #1 of 10
Thread Starter 

I need to replace my aging Elan 999s as my deep days ski.  I'm considering diving into the 21st century and going with one of the new "fun shape" skis - i.e. Rossi S7, Armada JJ, Praxis Concept. etc.

 

I'll readily admit that I've never ridden an early taper and rockered, 5 dimensions type ski.  I've been on some early rise and some rockered in my demos, but nothing quite like these new fun shapes. 

 

In Colorado I'll need a ski that can handle the deep stuff while being just as capable in the cut up later in the day and of course get me back to the lift alive (no full reverse camber!).

 

So what should I have at the top of my list?  Note that I generally prefer damper "power" skis that aren't super stiff. 

 

TIA

post #2 of 10

Rossi S7. Fairly damp, moderate flex at best, silly easy and super fun in trees, deep stashes, and anyplace else you want to slash and goof. Surprisingly easy to maneuver getting around on groomed as long as you pay attention to where your CM is. Drawbacks: Not for a steady diet of straightlining heavy snow; this may be more of an issue for heavier folks (I'm 163, ski on the 188's), and I have like to turn a lot anyway. And on the heavy side if you plan to hike (in which case the DPS 112RP looks to be the answer).  

 

If that's too much shape and weirdness (tail can be a bit disconcerting if you're used to traditional, especially on groomed), recommend the PM Gear Lhasa Pow. Light for its size, moderate rocker in front, almost none in back, traditional sidecut. So handles a lot more like a "normal" fat ski, meaning you can carve it, but easier to initiate and surf crust or variable density. Very decent on hardpack. 

post #3 of 10

If you really want all day performance, don't go 5 point.  They are way better in fresh but don't give you the same satisfaction once it gets chopped up and harshed upon by the weather and of course the dreaded groomer performance.  I love my Billy Goats but they are very powder biased and I switch to BROs once it gets chopped for plowage.  I'd probably go Lhasa with your particular set of requirements over a 5 pointer.  They're reported to handle the fresh, the chop and even the groomers with grace and pop.  They're on my pow ski wish list for sure as I have their little cousins the 183 BRO's and they kill it in all conditions.    

 

 http://www.pmgear.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=9&category_id=1&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=12&vmcchk=1&Itemid=12

 

post #4 of 10
Don't know how the compare head to head - but I wouldn't consider my JJs to be damp. The ski has a weird stiffness. Noodle like from tip to point 2. Uber stiff underfoot from point 2 to 4 and then back to noodle. Not usre how that compares to the S7. Have to say I love me my JJs. They sure are fun and I hit everything with them - even bumps. Though they're a handful on bumps but still doable.

You really can't go wrong with any of those skis
post #5 of 10

I've skied the JJ, Lhasa Pow & Night Train, and like them all. None would be my first choice for a day on groomers, of course, but no issues for any of them on handling even very hard-packed snow.

post #6 of 10

Lhasa Pow hands down.

 

If you want a bit more carveability and still funshape-ish go Katana. With its ELP it surfs powder but also carves ice and destroys crud thanks to more sidecut and titanal sheet respectively.

post #7 of 10

The Elan 999 was not your typical Elan which is why most Elan enthusiasts hated it and I like it.  Its flex was moderate (not stiff like most Elans) making it capable of quick turns in tight quarters.  If you are looking for something you can do quick, shorts turns in powder with look at S7. 

post #8 of 10

Y'know, some of this is about velocity and weight. Most of the fun shapes are so wide and so rockered that they'll rise and plane at moderate speeds for lighter - average guys. Then be very easy to smear and bank. And their deep sidecut in the middle makes them come around super fast on groomed. This is a good thing for trees, lift served sidebounds, and bowls full of pedestrians, not so sure it's what you want for charging steeps or chutes. If you see this more for wide open spaces, or billygoating variable snow around chutes or faces, I'd be inclined to think more about something non-5 point, but still significant rocker and a bit more stiffness. Plenty out there: 4frnt EHP, Volkl Katana, Elan Boomerang or 1010, Prior Overlord, Lhasa Pow, Moment Night Train, Liberty Double Helix, the list goes on. Might check review sticky at TGR, although the "my new xxx's are the best ever" genre are even more common than here. 

post #9 of 10
Thread Starter 

So I bought a pair of Line Prophet 115 skis, but I'm going to take them back.  After much additional research into this arena I've decided to go with the new DPS Wailer 112RP in hybrid construction.  They look to be exactly what I'm looking for (and very similar to the S7, but also different in a good way ).

 

So hopefully I'll be rockin' some big yella bananas in the deep stuff this season.

post #10 of 10
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Originally Posted by Noodler View Post

So I bought a pair of Line Prophet 115 skis, but I'm going to take them back.  After much additional research into this arena I've decided to go with the new DPS Wailer 112RP in hybrid construction.  They look to be exactly what I'm looking for (and very similar to the S7, but also different in a good way ).

 

So hopefully I'll be rockin' some big yella bananas in the deep stuff this season.


Sweet dude. I fully expect a TR or a ski review in the coming months. ;)

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