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Bindings for S3's Schizo? Adjustable needed?

post #1 of 20
Thread Starter 

Will soon have a pair of 178 2011 S3's which I'll be using both for East Coast skis and powder and a 2 week Colorado trip.

 

What is your opinion of the need for a binding that I can move forward and back to play with the mounting point?

 

Any thing else besides the very costly Marker Schizo that would give that versatility?

 

I would think a Railflex System would work, but would it not be recommended for a ski like this?

 

post #2 of 20
Thread Starter 

Starting to think that buying Railflex plates might be the way to go, then I can swap my bindings from my Progressors onto it, save money and make traveling with two pairs of skis easy.  Would need to buy wide brakes for them though.

 

What do you think of Railflex on this ski?  

post #3 of 20

I think the 0 line has been the most popular mount position on the S3.

post #4 of 20

I may be wrong, but doesn't the Schizo system have to be part of the Ski too??  i.e. you cant add it later?

 

I ask as K2 sell the Schizo and non-Schizo versions of their planks?

post #5 of 20

no, its a free-mounted binding with a total of 6cm fore/aft movement. http://shop.starthaus.com/store/pc/viewPrd.asp?idcategory=4&idproduct=1299

 

Railflex on a S3?  not my preference. weight-wise and safety feature-wise among other reasons.

post #6 of 20
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Originally Posted by Finndog View Post

 

Railflex on a S3?  not my preference. weight-wise and safety feature-wise among other reasons.


What are the safety concerns with Railflex? I just bought some but have not used them yet.

post #7 of 20
Thread Starter 

$439 is so expensive, I'm looking into getting a pro deal on the schizos.

post #8 of 20


Is this an update or did the K2 skis just save you from mounting the baseplate?

 

Not trying to be a pain.... Just building my knowledge

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Originally Posted by Finndog View Post

no, its a free-mounted binding with a total of 6cm fore/aft movement. http://shop.starthaus.com/store/pc/viewPrd.asp?idcategory=4&idproduct=1299

 

Railflex on a S3?  not my preference. weight-wise and safety feature-wise among other reasons.

post #9 of 20

Expensive, but I've just put Vist Speedlock plates on two pairs of skis, which are now sharing Vist 614 Race bindings. A great set up for travelling as skis are lighter and pack flat without bindings.  It takes all of 30 seconds to put the bindings on and you have the option of moving the bindings forward or back to find the sweet spot (and no tools required).

post #10 of 20
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Originally Posted by Taxman View Post

Expensive, but I've just put Vist Speedlock plates on two pairs of skis, which are now sharing Vist 614 Race bindings. A great set up for travelling as skis are lighter and pack flat without bindings.  It takes all of 30 seconds to put the bindings on and you have the option of moving the bindings forward or back to find the sweet spot (and no tools required).


No....just....no.....

post #11 of 20

 

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No....just....no.....



Other than cost, any basis for being dismissive?

post #12 of 20


sometimes they just package the skiss with bindings but to the schizo was never sold as an integrated binding. its bascally a Jestor on a moveable base.
 

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Originally Posted by ramzee View Post


Is this an update or did the K2 skis just save you from mounting the baseplate?

 

Not trying to be a pain.... Just building my knowledge


 
post #13 of 20

there a are many different RF bindings, for off-piste heavy duty the most equivelent rf to a jester/schizo IMHO is the HD14.  its not that they are unsafe, I just prefer the full safety features of the marker lineup. Some of the RF's don't have all of the release features. In general, the RF is just fine when properly setup and used as intended 

 

 

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Originally Posted by TallSkinnyGuy View Post




What are the safety concerns with Railflex? I just bought some but have not used them yet.

post #14 of 20
Thread Starter 

Decided to stay with a fixed binding mount at 0 based on a thread on TGR I read about this ski. 

 

So bought a Rossi 120 XL Pro deal, much less money then the Schizo.

 

Solid on the ski, no plate, no slop, wide binding to ski connection.

 

Total price of skis and bindings pro deal thus stayed very reasonable, $520 plus shipping.

post #15 of 20

great!  For me, I don't feel the need to move the binding around. Once I get the spot, I ski everything the same way.

post #16 of 20
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Originally Posted by SkiMangoJazz View Post

Decided to stay with a fixed binding mount at 0 based on a thread on TGR I read about this ski. 

 

So bought a Rossi 120 XL Pro deal, much less money then the Schizo.

 

Solid on the ski, no plate, no slop, wide binding to ski connection.

 

Total price of skis and bindings pro deal thus stayed very reasonable, $520 plus shipping.


Very solid setup at a great price. S3 was on my shortlist as a daily driver until I got my mitts on an ON3P Vicik.
 

post #17 of 20

Just put the railflex on them and forget about it. I did it with my nordica enforcers for the same reason. $$$ + allowing me to easily travel with 2 pair. No brainer. I dont care about the lift, and I am used to the lift on my race skis anyhow. If these aren't "good enough" for fat skis, then why are they are consumer race model skis.

post #18 of 20

which RF? there are many

post #19 of 20
Thread Starter 

Guess I'll just have to leave the Progressors at home when I go to Vail, but it'll snow the whole time we're out there anyways. 

post #20 of 20

that's the way to think....

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