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New pair of skis

post #1 of 5
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Hey Guys


Early piece of advice. I need to get a second pair of skis, which I'll call my "out west" pair. Notably, I have a pair of skis for the hard pack/ice stuff we get out here in the Northeast. I want to get a second pair of skis that I'm gonna use primarily for powder and some bumps. I know they're completely different style skis, so I thought I would go for a great pair of light, all-mountain skis a bit on the shorter side of what I normally ski.


I'm 6'0, 175 LBs and I've been skiing 168 for the last few years. I was thinking of going for a pair of all-mountains in the 160 cm range too short given body type/what I'm hoping to use them for?) But honestly thats about all I know. I tried a pair of Dynastar 6th sense and Salomon XW Enduro, neither of which I liked, and I'm generally not an Elan fan. But other than that I'm very open to suggestions.


Also, not looking to break the bank, so targetting around $800-1000 MSRB with bindings (don't need 2010 technology, 07/08 just fine).



post #2 of 5



There is little need to go shorter than your current skis. Although 168 is fine for a hard snow oriented ski, it is less than ideal for an AM ski. You could go with something in the low 170 range but going even shorter than that would be inadvisable.


I'm not quite clear on what you mean by your "out west pair" Does this mean you will be (a) traveling out west with these skis or (b) that you will use them primarily for when you have western conditions in the east? If (a) will you be primarily traveling out west when we have powder conditions?


There are a lot of good choices but which model 6th Sense did you ski and what (specifically) did you not like about it and the Salomon?



post #3 of 5
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Hi Jim


I stopped visiting the site for a while tied up still in my summer sports. Didn't have winter mode on the brain here while its been in the 70s up here in the northeast. Now that I'm back though, I saw you posted on my thread, appreciate the reply.


My goal for the skiis it to use them on both for skiing out west (where they will be my exclusive pair) and for days when we get a LOT  (like base snow over 70in) of snow in the Northeast. I was thinking of going lighter since I've always skied with heavier skis since I've started actually getting good enough to ski bowls/back-country comfortably. They've been ok but they're too heavy and don't really allow me to "sit back on my heels" and go through a powder run well. More importantly than pure powder (which i rarely hit), they're too bulky to maneuver through trees at good speed and are way too heavy any kind of bumps - both of which I prefer.


I know there's no one ski that fits all those criteria, but thats why I was thinking of a lighter all mountain pair, and going for a shorter pair, maybe in the 160-165 range, I thought would give me a lot more maneuverability in trees and more feel on moguls. Am I thinking about this the wrong way?


I don't remember which pair of Dynastar's I skied exactly to be honest. I have no real grip about Salomon skis, mostly have gripes about their boots and I guess its just an unsubstantiated bias. So I'm pretty much open to any brand (except the Dynastar 6th, though I don't remember the model). Just looking for the best bang for my buck.

post #4 of 5

First, a shorter ski will not help you to sit back on your heels for a powder run.


Second, if you think that is what you need to do to ski a powder run, you don't need new skis, you need lessons.


Seriously though...................


A shorter ski (160 ish) will be easier to muscle and flail your way through moguls but will be worse everywhere else on the mountain so that's just a priority decision. Go there if you want, but IMO that's a waste of money. 


Special purpose tools aside and assuming that you are at least a competent intermediate skier, your operative length for an AM ski should be in the 170-175 (ish) range with a medium flex and a width in approximately the 85-90mm range and there are bunches of them. None of these are likely to be any easier in moguls than what you have, but remember you mogul/powder problem is really not equipment related (welllll......boots maybe). IAC, these are the most versatile skis in the world for someone in your situation.


I'm posting a link to a thread with about ten reviews in the approxiamte width range I just suggested. Browse through them and see if you can guess which three or four I think might be the best call for you.





post #5 of 5

Depends on how many days you'll use the skis.


At a budget of $800-$1000, you'd get a minimum of 20-30 days rental on some good, high-end pow skis (depending on where you go), so is it really worth it to drag them out somewhere, wait for the day to use them, then drag them back? You could just see what the conditions are then decide what ski you'd like for that day.


Being a gear whore, who's done exactly the opposite of what I suggest, with three quivers in North America, I'm starting to see that maybe I'll stop buying stuff that is essentially archaic in a couple of years, and just make arrangements for shops to have what I want, when I want wherever I go.


Anyway, my suggestion is always to demo, demo, demo. I did that last year at Whistler during their epic November, and brought home some ObSETHed's, which I use with the other quivers that include Sultan's and Mythic Riders (yes I know that's overlap). I just liked them - YMMV, so try things out when you have the chance at a good shop and decide from there. $40-50 for a demo is a good investment.

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