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Heated Chairlift makes debut at The Canyons

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http://news.travel.aol.com/2010/09/07/heated-chair-lift-to-debut-at-utah-ski-resort/

 

Skiers at The Canyons in Park City, Utah will have the luxury of cushy tushies, thanks to what's being billed as the first heated bubble chairlift in North America.

With features that include heated seats, the quad bubble lift encloses pampered skiers in clear orange plastic. Resort officials say it's one of the most technologically advanced ski lifts in the world, created for comfort and optimum visibility.

But why the orange? "The weather protecting orange bubble will evoke the feeling of being inside a pair of ski goggles," officials say in a press release.

The bubble lift is located just outside the resort's Grand Summit Hotel and will take skiers to the mid-mountain Lookout Peak, then continue uphill to just south of the current Sun Peak lift.

On a practical note, the resort says the lift increases capacity from the base-mountain by 47% and will allow skiers to get to the top of the mountain in 9 minutes.

The state-of-the-art lift debuts this ski season as part of an expansion that also includes the addition of a second new chairlift, a new gondola and 300 acres of expanded terrain at The Canyons, Utah's largest ski resort.


 

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That's just soft.  HTFU people.

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Originally Posted by vail snopro View Post

The state-of-the-art lift debuts this ski season


 


Not to be rude or anything, but is it right for the author to claim this is state of the art when such lifts have been in use around Europe for several years?

 

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Not to be rude or anything, but is it right for the author to claim this is state of the art when such lifts have been in use around Europe for several years?

 

Well "state of the art" doesn't necessarily mean "new and unique".  As long as there aren't a crop of chairlifts in Europe more technologically advanced than this, "state of the art" still would apply.
 

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We rode one in Lech. It was fine. (Actually, it was great because it was raining, and the bubble kept us a little less miserable.) I was kinda surprised that they didn't already have them in N.A., to tell the truth. But all types of mountain transportation in Europe is "ahead" of us, as far as I can tell.

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Well "state of the art" doesn't necessarily mean "new and unique".  As long as there aren't a crop of chairlifts in Europe more technologically advanced than this, "state of the art" still would apply.
 


Fair enough.

 

I'm use to people using it to emphasize that something is rather new or even ground-breaking, even though it can simply mean "modern" or "up-to-date."

 

 

As far as the lifts themselves, I have to say that, on a really bad day, that bit of heat from the lift can mean the difference between soldiering on and heading inside to warm up or call it a day. Having a bubble to block the wind when things are bad is also nice. You can always leave it up if it's a nice day.

 

 

 

 

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That's just soft.  HTFU people.


 

Seriously.   

 

If there was one lift  they /should/ have heated it's Condor Express.    

 

Now imagine all those warm-tushied "Oh, look, honey, Upper Boa is all blue, we can ski down to here, ride this lift then cruise on down"   getting their faces blasted on Apex ridge.

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Talikster wants to seriously change the resort to a Deer Valley kinda "experience" with boarders allowed and welcome, but w/o the overly groomed DV snow. So, they are doing the "What Does It Mean To Mountain" campaign (or something like that).   DV is known for kissing ass the moment you drive there, with some smiling kid taking your skis before you park and every bit of lodging giving first class service.  The Canyons, soon to be "Canyons Resort," has their main parking lot well below the village so they have to reposition the gondola loading right in front of the Cabriolet to give that seamless, kiss-ass "experience"  from the moment a guest leaves their car.   The heated bubble thing gets the Grand Summit guests and other skiers who want no crowds over to Sun Peak and Super Condor, the colder side of the resort that has a lodge.  But the best powder snow is likely going to be on the other side, particularly since they seem to be closing Murdock Bowl for so long after any decent snowfall for blasting since the avalanche a couple of seasons ago (and that was over on 9990, 10 minutes before my late sleeping wife and I got there).  And when there is no powder, the double diamonds off Apex Ridge can be spotty unless there is a good base.  So I'm curious how many locals and return visitors will prefer the new chairlift?

 

Still, Talkiest has cash and they are willing to spend it when everyone else seems to be cutting corners.  Now if they only became a little more green with some solar panels and wind turbines...

 

I'm still a bit confused with their overall plan.  They are incorporating big new snow making, the "ski beach" idea  that will be great for the younger and/or single crowds (and will add to F&B revenue).  Yet they remain committed to the upscale tourist with the Waldorf purchase and everything else built there like the Grand Summit, Miner's Club, etc.  I guess they think the place is large enough to have something for everyone.  And it is.  But will the economy cooperate?
 

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Seriously.   

 

If there was one lift  they /should/ have heated it's Condor Express.    

 

Now imagine all those warm-tushed "Oh, look, honey, Upper Boa is all blue, we can ski down to here, ride this lift then cruise on down"   getting their faces blasted on Apex ridge.



 

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The heated bubble thing gets the Grand Summit guests and other skiers who want no crowds over to Sun Peak and Super Condor, the colder side of the resort that has a lodge.  But the best powder snow is likely going to be on the other side, particularly since they seem to be closing Murdock Bowl for so long after any decent snowfall for blasting since the avalanche a couple of seasons ago (and that was over on 9990, 10 minutes before my late sleeping wife and I got there).  And when there is no powder, the double diamonds off Apex Ridge can be spotty unless there is a good base.  So I'm curious how many locals and return visitors will prefer the new chairlift?


I can make one and only one argument in support of the new warm tush chair: it keeps the upscale in-resort-lodging customer one ridgeline away from the zoo that is Red Pine.     

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Agreed.  Go left, go right, but avoid Red Pine on a busy day! Fortunately, there are few busy days there. Let's hope a new lodge opens soon.

 

You must sleep as little as I do!

 

What is your favorite run there?  Mine is Grande into Pinball Alley at the end of the day or anytime Grande is relatively untracked.  I remember taking a nice east coast couple I met on the Tombstone chair on it.  They were skiing the place for the first time,  couldn't believe this kind of fun stuff existed there, and said they were coming back for a 2nd day.  Maybe I shoulda kept my mouth shut and left them to ski the Saddleback groomers or Deer Valley?  This whole Talikster thing is going to kill the "secret" of the place, but at least they will sell a lot more lift tickets and be solvent.


Edited by quant2325 - 9/15/10 at 7:10am
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In the morning, 100 Turns or Condor Woods into Canis Lupus.    Somewhere off Dreamcatcher in the PM.

 

If you look elsewhere on this forum, you'll notice I have a *cough*spotted*cough* history with the trees off Saddleback and the ones off Peak 5 lifts, including one 45mins-inverted-in-a-tree-well episode that cost me a perfectly good MCL.    I tend to (subconsciously?) not go there anymore.

 

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In the morning, 100 Turns or Condor Woods into Canis Lupus.    Somewhere off Dreamcatcher in the PM.

 

If you look elsewhere on this forum, you'll notice I have a *cough*spotted*cough* history with the trees off Saddleback and the ones off Peak 5 lifts, including one 45mins-inverted-in-a-tree-well episode that cost me a perfectly good MCL.    I tend to (subconsciously?) not go there anymore.

 


 

Sorry to hear about the injury.  My oldest son got sucked into a tree well last year, and we are both still learning our lessons about them. 

 

He had a weird experience on 94 Turns two years ago, when he was 8-years old.  He took a mid-week lesson, and was the only kid in the advanced group so he got the equivalent of a private lesson.  The instructor took him to 9990 in the late afternoon, which I think is dumb because little kids tire by then.  Anyhow, he fell on 94 Turns within sight of the instructor.  Somehow, the ski that released became lost. How you lose a ski there is beyond me, but the instructor couldn't find it. Neither could the ski patrol that also looked for it.  So someone came up with rentals so he could ski down.  Then it snowed like heck two days later, and the ski was forever lost.  The instructor was apologetic, but I saw no need to tip her (and I am usually extremely generous).  I was pissed off but kept my cool (for a change) and TC Ski School covered the cost with lessons for the kids.  Still, HTF do you lose a ski on 94 Turns when the snow is packed?  And what was an 8-year old doing on 9990 at 3:00 PM after a full day of skiing?  FWIW, I still like their ski school since they usually match the right instructors to the kids (even if it takes them half-a-day to realize my youngest can actually carve turns). And  I always make sure my kids take it easy at the end of their day when they ski with me.  Sometimes I make them quit early, which means I become "The Worst Daddy in the World," but at least they make it back to the room safely.

 

94 turns.jpg


 


Edited by quant2325 - 9/18/10 at 6:13pm
post #13 of 15

Looking forward to riding the "Cone of Silence" at the Canyons this winter:

 

cone_of_silence.bmp

 

Every time I get in one of these I think of "Get Smart."  Not sure I need the heated seats, but the cones are fun.  Maybe they'll have the trail maps on the safety bar - I think that's a great idea.

 

I'm going to miss Smokies.  I finally figured out that's the least crowded spot for lunch on the whole hill, and then they tear it down.  I won't miss the men's room at Smokies, however - truely the most heinous ski bar bathroom in all the world.

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That's just soft.  HTFU people.


Agreed.

 

Harrumph!

 

post #15 of 15

Heated or not, bubble chairs are hot with the right people in them:

 

shakira-and-bubble-chair-gallery.jpg

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