Do Americans buy too big? - Page 4

Leave me out of this.....

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Originally Posted by Philpug 

At least you had hands... try with fins!

 WE HAVE MORE $$S TO SPEND !!

 What a silly question this is.  What would ever give anyone that idea?

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Originally Posted by Que 

Jesus dude, you trying to quit smoking today or something? ;) What's with getting all agro on people who manage to get more than 10 day in a year? Seems you have a complex or something.

Naw, don't smoke, average about 40 days myself but happy for those who get more, and other than killing people with my boy scout ax, no real complexes. Definitely not "going all aggro" on people who ski a lot. (Which incidentally is not a synonym for "ski on long fat skis".) My point, obviously to stir the pre-snow pot a bit:

Many of you here who are way into long fat skis are a very biased sample. Shocking, but many people who come to Epic (not TGR) asking advice don't live near a big mountain, or have flexy schedules/unusual jobs with lots of off time. They probably (gasp) aren't even expert skiers. So your experiences in the steep and deep, truthful as they may be for you, may be irrelevant to folks who have more typical lives, skills, or home slopes with different snow conditions or terrain. (Like Yrp). I just think we have some responsibility to think about the fit when someone is asking for advice.

That's all. Vanilla enough for you?

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Originally Posted by beyond 

Naw, don't smoke, average about 40 days myself but happy for those who get more, and other than killing people with my boy scout ax, no real complexes. Definitely not "going all aggro" on people who ski a lot. (Which incidentally is not a synonym for "ski on long fat skis".) My point, obviously to stir the pre-snow pot a bit:

 

Many of you here who are way into long fat skis are a very biased sample. Shocking, but many people who come to Epic (not TGR) asking advice don't live near a big mountain, or have flexy schedules/unusual jobs with lots of off time. They probably (gasp) aren't even expert skiers. So your experiences in the steep and deep, truthful as they may be for you, may be irrelevant to folks who have more typical lives, skills, or home slopes with different snow conditions or terrain. (Like Yrp). I just think we have some responsibility to think about the fit when someone is asking for advice.

 

That's all. Vanilla enough for you?

Or, until someone starts paying me to give advice, I'll be as misleading and off-the-wall (biased)as I chose, hoping never to ever introduce anyone to anything that helps them get out and shred on a powder day. Ya' can't beat a Volkl Race Stock Slalom Ski for deep fresh wet powder. You can get the 5 Star if you're not that good. There, got us back on track.

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Originally Posted by Caucasian Asian 

I can't believe I bothered to read any of this thread. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And to make matters worse, you took the time to post in it! 
 

Fins! We'd've paid big money for fins!

What was the going rate for Norwegians ?

Haven't read all of this but as a Euro who has skied extensively on both continents I'd say the characteristics of the markets are different.  Lots of European skiers go for 1 week holiday a year so that's 6 days skiing and barely worth contemplating ownership.  Even the keener skiers outside of ski countries will probably only have 1 pair of skis chosen as a compromise for typical European snow conditions - for many that means slightly hard, over trafficked groomer.  The Scandis and of course some locals and seasonnaires are bought in more to the whole big ski/rocker/dress like a bag of skittles thing.

Out west in the US & Canada there is a decent chance of catching respectably soft snow and there is skiing well within reach of major population centres so my take is that lots of skiers ski more throughout the season even if absolute skier days aren't higher.  My guess is that this, along with a a drive to ski culture facilitates the desire for quivers and more specialist skis for your local ski hill.

Norwegians? With or without fins?

Maybe with some Laps (Laplanders)?

First:

I am 184cm, 89kg (low fat%), x-racer. 39yrs Currently ski between a 100 and 120 days a year.

Quiver:

Slope: Fischer racetiger sl (racestock) 165cm

Touring: Dynafit Mustagh ata 187cm

Freeride: Black Crows Corvus (196,5x105mm)

Past: Obsethed 189, Coomba 181, Blizzard Cronus 180++

I think most people choose ski too long and too wide, me included.  The 196,5 is great for gs-skiing big mountains.  The problem is that I have used it for all round skiing...and for that a shorter, more turny ski would be preferable.  Here is a series of mini-reviews:

- Volkl Racetiger 165: no problem skiing fast in slopes.  Only reach speedlimit when skiing empty slopes - after all, it is not a GS ski. Also works well offpiste as long as the speed is high (have had a few rolls when the offpiste has been too flat to keep the speed up). But, no doubt, better for ice than powder.  Skied an "icefall" with it -  would not have a different ski

- Dynait Mustagh Ata (187): (87mm waist) Perfect compromise for Norway.  Would choose a 178 in the alps (more coloirs)

- Black Crows Corvus 196,5: No rocker.  Prefer it to Obsethed 189.  Great when going fast....but, you have to go fast.  Short turns are possible, but requires strength and technique...and it hard to get a good rythm.  Ohh, when the angle is steep (+35 degrees) enough it is great for all turns! I would probably be better off with the same model in apprx 185 (available this year)

Thoughts on K2 Obesethed and K2 Coomba, Megawatt and the ski trend in general:

- Good for perfect powder, but what isnt, but too soft, too slow to edge, too twisty to hold a powered up edge. See a lot of people with wide powder skis here (Scandinavia).  It seems to help mediocre skiers to get into the off piste.  Love the surfy feeling in flat off piste perfect powder.

His basic point is correct, though. The best advice (not just on skiing, but on any topic) is advice that helps the person who needs it. Not advice that simply tells what you do. In my case, sometimes the only advice I CAN give is telling people what I do, but I try to flag it when that's all I've got.
 

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Originally Posted by davluri 

Or, until someone starts paying me to give advice, I'll be as misleading and off-the-wall (biased)as I chose, hoping never to ever introduce anyone to anything that helps them get out and shred on a powder day. Ya' can't beat a Volkl Race Stock Slalom Ski for deep fresh wet powder. You can get the 5 Star if you're not that good. There, got us back on track.

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Keith, any connection to the Wallace and Grommet group, or just enjoy the picture? That's the best animation I've ever seen.

My post also relates to amateur bicycle racing (road). I once complained that a guy on my team had ridden in a way that made it harder for me to win the race, (almost) pulling the whole peloton up to me when I was in a small break. Another team member reminded me that no one here was being paid and would ride for themselves if they felt like it.

Free advice is worth what you paid for it! Ha. Most people here do use the giving of advice to aggrandize themselves, except the pros, and thus the post / joke / hidden agenda.

I'm a fan of the movie but mostly use the picture on Facebook to entertain my niece, and it carries over here automatically. I didn't work on the movie or on animation in general (I am a product manager for a household name Internet company).