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Bob Barnes Article TPS - Page 2

post #31 of 37
My guess is HH's books sell more to the General Public b/c ther're *aimed* and marketed to the GP. simple as that. I've yet to see a PSIA book aimed at a similar audience and most other ski books at bookstores seem more specialized and aimed at Racers/experts. Also, don't discount Harolds infamous goofy smile in every foto. LOL. you know I had to give him a hard time about that when I met him......

Ironically, I think HH"s biggest contribution to skiing may be his emphasis on equipment and alignment for the GP, not just racers. It made all the diff. in my skiing once I got off the inside edges. I'd like to know what BB. recommends; a flat ski (how HH skis I think)? ones that's slightly on the inside edge(what warren Witherall recommends i think)? one that slightly on the outside edge (this would be the set up for a wide stance I think and it's also how Diana sets up her stance I think so that she engages the edge more smoothly, NOT for a wide stance. of course.
post #32 of 37
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Actually Witherall has reccomended a stance of 1-2 degrees on the outside edges since he updated How The Racers Ski in 1984. He reaffirmed it in more detail in The Athletic Skier. This gives the appearance of slightly knock kneed when the skis are flat. It also gives more edge angle to the inside ski when the shins are parallel, similar to the inside wheel on a car when it turns because the inside wheel/ski has to make a tighter radius turn.
post #33 of 37
I'm still digesting the TPS article. Harald (when he was still PSIA) and the other Bob Barnes are the only instructors who worked with me, on the mountain, concerning alignment issues. I know there are liability issues, but I think every instructor should learn as much as possible about alignment/stance problems and corrections.

A site that may be interesting for boot/alignment work.

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post #34 of 37
I almost posted something about skiing manuals and ski teaching manuals being apples and oranges but I stopped myself. That point must be pretty clear by now.

I haven't seen the article. There must be some screw up with the mail cuz I haven't seen my mag. What's it all about?

I have taken to carrying a minimal boot tool/alignment package with me on lessons and use it most during beginner lessons. An article about stance-geometry issues sounds like a good one.
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post #35 of 37
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SLATZ:
Thanks for the tips on the bits. I'm not too up on woodworking tools.
Thanks for the suggestions. I've been doing this for almost 20 years. I made a jig that would hold the boot so that you could grind the part you wanted in one pass with a body grinder. I used to use 2 part fillers(my daughter sells auto body supplies)but now I do the tops with a plastic welder. I have also switched to truing the bottom with a belt sander then using a small jointer. This system is fairly portable and I can take it to the hill. With the advent of lifters I don't add to the tops anymore. My system for the tops is a cut off wheel at high speed in a drillpress. I use a notched guage to set the hight. This summer at Hood all the boot guys had those router setups. The Nordica rep said he thought they came from "out east", the Atomic guy said"Europe". It sounds like it's not magic after all.
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These bits are not available form the standard wood working catalogs. You need the longest shaft 1/2" diameter , and then a rabbitting bit and then have the spacers made for our weird application, customizing boots. There is way too much misinformation out there that will get people with the wrong tools into a lot of trouble. Go to my web site to the boot sloe modification page to see the proper set up. A mobile set up is a piece of cake.web page
post #36 of 37
gmolfoot, see you in a week, you convinced me to go for it.
post #37 of 37
Thanks for the info. I must look in different catalogs. very long 1/2 bits are pretty normal and rabiting bits big enough to cut 1-2" rabits are quite common. I don't think I want to modify my boots though. I would bring them to a shop like yours. I love my tools but I don't know what I'm doing when it comes to modifications of ski boots.. That's why I would pay you the big $$$

We met Bob at Telluride two seasons ago. I suspect you know him? I took my cousin to see him (we heard he was among the best). He got a fitting and raved so much about it, I think about 10 of the people on the trip ended up getting footbeds and I think even 2 people ended up replacing their boots that year. All were and are very happy with the results.
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