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Rossignol S7 vs. S6

post #1 of 18
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I am toying with the idea of acquiring a new powder ski.  If not now, maybe when there is some powder ;), or a deal presents itself.  Presently my powder ski is a 181cm K2 Anti-piste.  I have been very pleased with this ski.  Although it didn't see a lot of action last season due to a lack of deep days, I skied it about 60 days the year before.  The S7 has received great reviews since its' inception.

 

I have been looking through the Freeskier buyers guide & noticed that Rossi is now making an S6.  Can anyone give me a comparison between these 2 skis. 

 

I am not sure a rockered tail is for me, but I've never tried any so who knows. 

 

I am inclined toward the 186cm in the S6, or the 188cm if it was the S7.  I am 5' 10" about 155lbs.

 

The description says the S6 has flat/no camber under foot, while it doesn't say about the S7 although I thought it had some camber. 

 

I like the idea of the tapered tail, but have no need for a twin tip.  Are either of these skis twins?

 

Are these skis considered full rocker?  If not, how does the rocker compare to other popular rockered skis?

 

I consider myself a versatile skier who enjoys all conditions, but also enjoy having the best tool for the job.

 

Any input from you folks who do a lot of ski testing/research would be appreciated.

 

Thanks,

JF

post #2 of 18

Both are twins, and rossi has made the S6 for a long time. The S6 last year is the same ski as the steeze a few years ago.

 

Rocker profiles are pretty different, I wouldn't really even call the S6 rockered its so minor, but it is zero camber. S7 has a nice rocker profile, not nearly hellbent like, but enough to keep your tips up (especially with the pin tail)

 

Yes, S7 has camber underfoot.

 

I thought the S6 was a bit boring, no life or snap to it. The shape of the S7 means its going to be really playful and fun to ski. You sound like a good candidate for something like the S7.

 

Also check out the Moment Bibby, ON3P Billy Goat, and Armada JJ

post #3 of 18
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Good info.  My initial instinct is toward the S7, now I am leaning a little more in that direction.  I do like a ski that is playful & has some snap.  Thanks for the other suggestions as well, although the Rossi's will probably be more available to me.

 

Anyone else?

 

Thanks,

JF

post #4 of 18

I'm pretty sure that I will be on a 188 S7 this year.  I demoed the S7 in 176 and 188 last year.  The S7 skis very short.  I even considered the 197 "super 7" version, but decided that would be too much ski for working on.  I am looking forward to borrowing a pair on a day off this season.  I found the S7 to be really fun in both lengths, but very short in a 176.

post #5 of 18

The Super7 is a whole different ski you can really feel the metal. I didn't get on well with it (mount point/delta wasn't really to my liking either though). If they made a 197 with the same construction as the 188, I'd be all over it.

post #6 of 18
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Originally Posted by FieldsofGlory View Post

Both are twins, and rossi has made the S6 for a long time. The S6 last year is the same ski as the steeze a few years ago.

 

Rocker profiles are pretty different, I wouldn't really even call the S6 rockered its so minor, but it is zero camber. S7 has a nice rocker profile, not nearly hellbent like, but enough to keep your tips up (especially with the pin tail)

 

Yes, S7 has camber underfoot.

 

I thought the S6 was a bit boring, no life or snap to it. The shape of the S7 means its going to be really playful and fun to ski. You sound like a good candidate for something like the S7.

 

Also check out the Moment Bibby, ON3P Billy Goat, and Armada JJ


Well said.

 

I would add to the "see also" list a few additional skis:  PM Gear Lhasa Pow, DPS Wailer 112RP, Praxis Protest or Concept.

 

One thing worth noting is that this category, with the exception of the Rossignol S7, is largely the province of indie manufacturers.  Good on Rossi for getting out there, but you might give the indies a shot.  I know that DPS has a demo program where they'll ship you a pair for a few days to try, and you just pay for return shipping.

post #7 of 18
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The Super7 is a whole different ski you can really feel the metal. I didn't get on well with it (mount point/delta wasn't really to my liking either though). If they made a 197 with the same construction as the 188, I'd be all over it.


According to the short blurb in Freeskier the S7 does come in a 195cm length.  The Super S7 is only a 195cm with a slightly wider waist & tail.  I doubt that the Super is the ski for me, but the S7 may be the one, I tend to like a softer flexing ski. 

 

In another thread you mentioned that the ski had the tendency to "wheelie".  How much rocker do the tails of these skis have?  My K2's have an early rise tip & I like that for powder.  I have never skied on a ski with tail rocker.  A couple of friends who have been proponents of super fat skis since the beginning have been on Volkl Kuros the past 2 seasons & were a little disappointed  with the tail rocker.

 

JF

post #8 of 18

If you are mounted in the right spot, you will feel balanced on these skis. You are a good skier, you won't be bothered by the tail rocker. It's really the pintail that makes it want to wheelie, not the rocker.

post #9 of 18
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I'm pretty sure that I will be on a 188 S7 this year.  I demoed the S7 in 176 and 188 last year.  The S7 skis very short.  I even considered the 197 "super 7" version, but decided that would be too much ski for working on.  I am looking forward to borrowing a pair on a day off this season.  I found the S7 to be really fun in both lengths, but very short in a 176.


I was going to send off a check tommorrow for S7's  188 from Philpug.   Glad to see you liked them, fortifies my opinion.  gooing with plus 3cm on mounting, since you have skied them do you have a recommendation?
 

post #10 of 18
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I know that DPS has a demo program where they'll ship you a pair for a few days to try, and you just pay for return shipping.

Thanks for the reminder.  I skied with the designers son a few times last year who said he could set me up with some demos.  I just never got around to it.  They actually live in the neighborhood.  The problem with the indie skis is the price.  I have drooled over the Lahsa's a few times in the last few years.  Rossi has always treated me well, so that is why I am leaning that way.

JF
 

post #11 of 18
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If you are mounted in the right spot, you will feel balanced on these skis. You are a good skier, you won't be bothered by the tail rocker. It's really the pintail that makes it want to wheelie, not the rocker.


If & when I pull the trigger, I will definitely be stressed about the mounting point.  Thanks for the input.

JF

post #12 of 18

I think when I demoed them it was a center mount on demo bindings.  I liked that just fine.  Probably with a demo binding it could be fudged around a bit.  It's likely that if I get them this season they will come with a demo binding.  As for the super 7...  It my understanding that ti is not the same ski as the regular S7.  I believe that it has an extra sheet of metal in it.
 

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I was going to send off a check tommorrow for S7's  188 from Philpug.   Glad to see you liked them, fortifies my opinion.  gooing with plus 3cm on mounting, since you have skied them do you have a recommendation?
 

post #13 of 18
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The problem with the indie skis is the price.  I have drooled over the Lahsa's a few times in the last few years.  Rossi has always treated me well, so that is why I am leaning that way.


Maybe you're finding better deals on the Rossis than I am, but pricegrabber.com can't find anything lower than $800.  At that price, I can't imagine you can't do better with an indie, at least until after President's week.

 

Lhasas are currently $760 on pmgear.com.  And someone around here or on TGR may be able to connect you with a better deal.

 

DPS Wailer 112RPs are currently $800 on preorder (in hybrid construction).  The guy you skied with can probably get you an additional discount.

post #14 of 18
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Thanks TheDad,

I am in no hurry, & your suggestions make me think it is time to do some demoing.  There just wasn't enough big days for me to warrant it last season.  I am sure I will be able to get on some DPS & the Rossi's. I would like to try the Lahsa's as well, Tyrone Shoelaces got me interested in those a few years ago.  They sounded like my kind of ski at the time when I read about them.

JF

post #15 of 18
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The Super7 is a whole different ski you can really feel the metal. I didn't get on well with it (mount point/delta wasn't really to my liking either though). If they made a 197 with the same construction as the 188, I'd be all over it.


I'm with you on that one. The ski felt quite lifeless to me compared to the 188, yet not chargy enough to make a good showing in the big mountain blaster category.

 

I think the 192 Bent Chetler may fit this category. I tried the 183 and thought it was a blast, as good as the S7 for sure.

post #16 of 18
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Just pulled the trigger on the 188 S7's.  I hope I didn't just curse the snowfall amounts, cause it better dump bigtime!

 

Thanks for everyone's input.

 

JF

 

post #17 of 18

They actually do fine in just a few inches. There's a giant thread on mounting position over at TGR. 

post #18 of 18
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Thanks beyond,  I have gotten a few insights on mounting so far, but that will be my next question.

I was gonna mount some old binders on em', but realized that I don't have anything with brakes that wide.  New bindings on the way as well.


 

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They actually do fine in just a few inches. There's a giant thread on mounting position over at TGR. 


JF

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