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Riding skis that are too short

post #1 of 11
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Hey I was just wondering. I haven't been up in a few years but i''m getting ready to get back into it this season. I just got my boots I went the the fischer viron 110, but I don't think I will end up with enough for new skis and I plan going 50+ times hopefully. I have some k2 silencers 169cm from 2008 and i'm 6'2" and weigh 210 but im just wondering if it will really make that big of a difference to get longer skis or if I will be fine to ride these for another season. Thanks in advance.


Edited by tldavis98012 - 9/7/10 at 9:49am
post #2 of 11

You will need to hand over a bit more info as there are lot of things to consider. Your weight will be a good start. I'm 6'3" but at 215lbs, i wouldn't ski on 169cm skis unless they were stiff on-piste carvers.

if you are all ribs and toenails, then you could get away with the 169's on piste.

post #3 of 11

They're a bit short, you could ski them, and I know a few pros who whip around on skis that I consider too short, but if you're getting back into it and planning on doing 50+ days, do it right and get something bigger. I'm 6 feet and 92kg and I always ride on about 178cm.
 

post #4 of 11
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Originally Posted by craigr View Post

You will need to hand over a bit more info as there are lot of things to consider. Your weight will be a good start. I'm 6'3" but at 215lbs, i wouldn't ski on 169cm skis unless they were stiff on-piste carvers.

if you are all ribs and toenails, then you could get away with the 169's on piste.


i weigh 210

post #5 of 11

Boy, do you like to throw a hornet's nest into the forum.    There are going to be a lot of people here that disagree with what I'm going to say.

 

Ski length, like ski color, is a matter of personal preference.  It is all a matter of the following and how you rate them in importance and blend them together.

  • how you ski
  • where you ski (on piste, off piste, on groomers, in crud, in powder, on ice)
  • what you want to do with them
  • what type of feedback you like from the ski
  • etc,
  • etc,
  • etc,

 

As you can see its not just as simple as stand up with your hand in the air and your ski should be mid-palm in length.  (Yes, that is how I bought my first set of skis in the late Cretaceous period.  )

 

Now I have a small quiver in terms of some people around here.  I'm 6'1" and 210 lbs.  I'm also a Ski Instructor. I have the following skis that I enjoy in order of when I got them:

  • Atomic Prime-X 120cm with 9 meter radius.  Very short, great teaching skis and an absolute blast to play with on groomed hard pack.
  • Atomic C-11 170cm with 14 meter radius.  These are now my rock skis.
  • Atomic Metron XI 162cm with 11 meter radius.  My first set of metrons.
  • Atomic Metron B-5 152cm with 10 meter radius.  You detecting something here?  I love shorter skis that are twisty turny types.  That's where my preference lies.  They are excellent on groomers, bust crud, and are good in bumps, for me.  These skis are somewhat acceptable in powder which we don't get too often around here.  Other people hate these skis.

 

So, what do you want to do with your skis and your skiing?

 

Be prepared for some interesting input in this thread.

post #6 of 11

It is a personal preference to be sure. I am roughly the same size as T-Square. I don't ski groomers much, except on spring mornings while I'm waiting for the snow to soften up. My skis range in size from 174cm to 190cm. Which is all to say that while I'm sure people will be willing to give you tons of input, it might not mean a whole lot for you. 

post #7 of 11

T-square has handed over some of the considerations and there are more. Why not hunt around on ebay and  get yourself a cheap used pair of similar skis, K2PE's for example,  in a longer length and when the snow starts falling get out and demo a range of different style/length/width skis.

 

FWIW, I have to travel to ski so multiple skis are not an option for me. Have managed to tick off 16 different mountains in Canada and have been travelling to Japan for the last couple of Winters, ski here in oz every once in awhile if the oppurtunity arises. I have been on Head Monster im77's in the 177cm length for the last 5 years. Overall, I would have been much better off on the 88's but the only time I have felt that i needed wider and longer has been in Japan where the Powder is relentless. Last Winter, I was hiking out of an area with a couple of blokes, one of them had Hellbents and the other had Coombas, we got to chatting about our skis and i decided it was time to try something bigger. Demoed some Mantras and ended up buying some to replace the Monsters as my travelling ski. There are better skis around for sole use in Japan but since i plan on poking around the US when the dollar allows, I purchased the Mantras (184cm) as my do it all ski. i reckon they would be perfect for allround North American skiing (excluding the park).

 

My point (finally), have a look at whats available in the all mountain 50/50 category. If you want park capability then that will narrow your search parameters even more.  consider older models and ebay, its not hard to put together a quiver for a fraction of the price of latest model skis.

post #8 of 11

Sell your skis, take what you get for them and whatever else you have available for skis, and ask Phil to hook you up.

 

The Silencer is better for a light skier regardless of length, and 169 is (by rule of thumb conventional approaches) quite short for your size. Gut feeling is that I'd look at 184 or so.

 

Where will you ski and what type of skiing do you do (and want to do)? eg mostly carving or mostly powder or mostly bumps or mostly park.

 

50 days is a lot of skiing and it'll be more fun and rewarding if you have the right skis.


Edited by FB User (Private) - 9/7/10 at 4:22pm
post #9 of 11

IMO, just going out on what you've got and taking note of what you like and don't like about them makes a lot more sense to me than blindly following advice from other people when there are so many variables. There are usually demo days early in the season which can give you the opportunity to try out several different skis/lengths - and you can at low/no cost see if you like something better and whether that option fixes what you don't like about your current skis - without giving up what you do like about them. It sounds like you're going to ski on only one set of skis once you make your choice, so you want to carefully pick a ski/length that YOU LIKE over a wide range of skiing conditions. Have Fun!

post #10 of 11

Go skiing, enjoy what you have on your feet that day.  If the ski is too short and too turn oriented, start looking for a replacement pair at the ski sales.  The length you have are too short for  stable skiing at higher speeds but should be fine for lots of turns.  Balance is critical, but just go skiing.  

post #11 of 11

They are short but that's not necessarily a bad thing. If you use them and like them then that's really all that matters. If you are asking the question because you think that maybe there is something better suited to your needs out there then --  maybe there is. My advice is to go to a ski resort with a good rental shop early in the season and demo a variety of different skis and see what feels good. Coming from such a small soft ski  a radical shift to the longest sizes or to something more racy and carving oriented may not feel great to you right from the start. Or maybe it will. Just pay your dollar, try them and find out. Then once you decide what you want let the local shop, or SJ or one of the other shop guys on here style you out.

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