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post #1 of 17
Thread Starter 

Can someone define/explain livelier vs. damper when describing ski's? 

 

I found this description on a the interwebz -

"While some all-mountain skis are heavy with dampening features, the Nordica Hot Rod Jet Fuel CA feels lighter (some would say livelier) than some all-mountain skis made by other ski manufacturers."
 
 

Damp: Skis that lessen the vibration caused by movement over the snow are considered damp. These skis are calm and muted under foot.

 

Lively: Opposite of damp.

post #2 of 17

I think that explains it pretty well. The livelier ski will have more snap and be more playful, the damp ski will be smoother and more want more speed. The CA, I like for a lighter finesse skier, the Ti for a heavier, driver of a skier. 

post #3 of 17
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Does 6' 175-180 lbs 7-8 level qualify as "lighter finesse" for the 170cm Jet Fuel CA?

 

I'm more of a cruiser that likes to ski varied terrain; groomers, crud, hard pack, trees, bowls, small jumps, etc...  I don't ski particularly fast and I don't ski the bumps very well.  I like to be in control at all times and make quick turns.

 

Nitrous TI or Jet Fuel CA?  I'm leaning towards the Jet Fuel CA.

post #4 of 17

JF CA, if you had another 20 lb by on you, the Ti. let alone your other criteria. 

post #5 of 17
Thread Starter 

More online research reveals that the Nitrous CA is hands down the most popular ski in the all mountain category for Nordica.  Maybe the Nitrous TI is a better choice. 

 

Hmmmm... decisions, decisions.  78mm + TI vs. 84mm + CA,  6mm ~ 1/4 inch, hmmmm... what to do?

post #6 of 17

I got the jet fuel CA's.  They are in great shape no blems I could see.  Have not used them yet.  Will use use them on 12/19/10 for the first time!

post #7 of 17
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Originally Posted by bugs View Post

More online research reveals that the Nitrous CA is hands down the most popular ski in the all mountain category for Nordica.  Maybe the Nitrous TI is a better choice. 

 

Hmmmm... decisions, decisions.  78mm + TI vs. 84mm + CA,  6mm ~ 1/4 inch, hmmmm... what to do?


Real easy..buy BOTH!!!

post #8 of 17

Not sure why "most popular" and "better choice" are necessarily different ... unless those were two unrelated thoughts.

 

From what you've posted in this thread, and assuming the choice is restricted to these two: JF CA. But either should be fine.

post #9 of 17

I too pulled the trigger on some JF CAs yesterday after a long PM dialogue w/SierraJim...for the price i figured it was a steal -- no tax no shipping charge on UPS ground. 

 

And at that price if I am not in love after a year of Summit County skiing, i just have to add more choices to the rack in the basement by shopping again.  The reviews were all great, including realskiers pay site, SJim had great points, and they shipped the afternoon I ordered them.  By all i read they are well suited for the mix we see here in CO, time will tell this year.

post #10 of 17
Thread Starter 

Phil - Thanks for the advice on the skis.  Just ordered a pair of the 170 JF CA.  They're probably too much ski for me, but I'll adjust.  At least they'll match my new Nordica Speedmachine boots.  I'll be a regular Nordica commercial on the slopes this winter.  Does Nordica make helmets?  I need a new helmet.  I'm sticking with the Stearns "walley hunter" jacket and 10+ year old Columbia bibs though.

 

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post #11 of 17

Hey Phil do you think I would like the CA better than the Ti?  I think the first time we skied together I was on a pair of 170 Jet Fuel (Ti).  I skied on them for about 70 days a few seasons ago and liked them.  Two seasons ago I got the 176 Gotomas and didn't touch the Nordicas for the rest of the year.  Last year I was given a pair of Mythic Riders 178 and skied those and the goats about 50/50. I like the Mythic more than the Jet Fuels and only skied the JFs a handful of days last year.   I've never had a chance to demo the CA version of the Jet Fuel and am curious if I would like them better than the Ti in a 178 for example or if I would find them a bit wimpy.
 

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Originally Posted by Philpug View Post

JF CA, if you had another 20 lb by on you, the Ti. let alone your other criteria. 

post #12 of 17
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Originally Posted by tetonpwdrjunkie View Post

Hey Phil do you think I would like the CA better than the Ti?  I think the first time we skied together I was on a pair of 170 Jet Fuel (Ti).  I skied on them for about 70 days a few seasons ago and liked them.  Two seasons ago I got the 176 Gotomas and didn't touch the Nordicas for the rest of the year.  Last year I was given a pair of Mythic Riders 178 and skied those and the goats about 50/50. I like the Mythic more than the Jet Fuels and only skied the JFs a handful of days last year.   I've never had a chance to demo the CA version of the Jet Fuel and am curious if I would like them better than the Ti in a 178 for example or if I would find them a bit wimpy.
 


 


You need a Ti, unfortunatly, we are out of 178s. 

post #13 of 17
Thread Starter 

Jet Fuels arrived yesterday.  A cursory inspection revealed a couple minor scratches on the base of one ski; the kind of scratches you get from a day of skiing.  I'll give them a closer look over tonight, but they look great.  Can't wait for it to get cold and snow.

post #14 of 17

mine arrived last week; only issue is the binding box was not taped together and came apart in the box -- but rescued all screws etc.  Now just have to get it all mounted and waxed/sharpened. 

 

I had some minor graphic issues on the top sheet; bottom was fine; but SJ had warned of that and it will look worse after my kids ski across my skis (near the tips AND near the tails if experience is any guide) several times the first day.

 

So i am  hoping the annual A-Basin Loveland race to 1st open is early this year; per the other string.

post #15 of 17
Thread Starter 

Yeah, couple of trips through the lift line and the ski will be officially broken in.

post #16 of 17

My binding box was open also but was able to find all the screws.  Cant wait for my first day of the year!

post #17 of 17
Thread Starter 

A closer inspection of the top sheet last night revealed a small (1/16") shallow dimple on each ski near the tip.  The dimple is on the same spot on both skis so it looks to me like something (small glob of dried glue?) got in the press when the skis were manufactured.  It's not anything noticeable and it certainly can't affect the skis performance. 

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