New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

What ski to buy?

post #1 of 9
Thread Starter 

Hi all well i've tried my second hand skis out and they do the job well but i reckon i'd be ready to look at buying a set whilst they are selling them dirt cheap in summer but i've got so many questions

 

I'd use my same boots for now until i can afford new one but i'd be looking at a binding/ski set

 

I've heard many people talk about sidecut and different types of skis like wider skis and carvers and stuff like that

 

Any help would be appreciated, main things i wanted to know where

 

What types of skis are there and what would be best for advanced begginer to intermediate range, i basically use it for zig zagging down groomed runs at the resorts

 

What is sidecut and how can i tell what ski has more?

 

Does brand matter all that much or is it a money thing like most thing you buy nowdays?

 

The ski i was after needs to be good at a medium speed and easy to turn. any help appreciated.

 

I did a begginer lesson about a month ago and have been practicing ever since and now i can do runs like the last hoot and wombats at falls creek reasonably well. To give you an idea where i am sitting at. Hardest thing i found was turning

post #2 of 9
Thread Starter 

http://www.ski-depot.com/miva/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=311207iXRC300&Category_Code=HEADALLMTNXRC08&Product_Count=4

 

i found these online whats your opinion on them?

 

they look like good skis to me but i'm not 100% sure as i don't know much about skis all together

 

 

post #3 of 9
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alienslayer View Post

http://www.ski-depot.com/miva/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=311207iXRC300&Category_Code=HEADALLMTNXRC08&Product_Count=4

 

i found these online whats your opinion on them?

 

they look like good skis to me but i'm not 100% sure as i don't know much about skis all together

 

 


Too soft and not enough grip.

 

Get a $20 subscription to realskiers.com and make sure the ski you select has the blue skier ICON (it's ok if it has other icons as well).  They have good reviews for skis going back a few years.  You will save your $20 bucks by buying a good ski on sale.

 

Turn radius: 13 m is best for learning.  longer is more suited for higher speed turns.

 

width: skinny for groomers and hard snow, wide for soft deep snow.

 

Brand:  There are family traits, but all make good and not so good skis.  The model you get is more important than the brand.

 

 

 

 

 

post #4 of 9
Thread Starter 

ok cool thanks for clearing that up a bit, so what skis can you recommend?

 

What do you mean by too soft? And how can you tell they don't have enough grip?

post #5 of 9
Thread Starter 

http://www.head.com/ski/ski.php?region=eu&tag=all_mountain_groomer&id=3033

 

what about those?

 

The current skis i have i took the measurements.

 

they are called Head Cyber space and are

 

top 11cm

middle 6cm

bottom 9.8cm

length 170cm

post #6 of 9

The linked skis look acceptable, though you might be able to find even better skis.

 

Do you ski on hard snow or soft snow.  If hard, then one thing to take into account when reading reviews is that for a ski to turn you it needs to apply force through interacting with the snow/ice.  Folks who are lucky enough to review the ski on "snow" have the luxury of having the whole ski or at least much of it in the snow.  Those of us who have to ski on ice and very hard snow only have a tiny bit of an edge in the snow and the ski twists a bit more, letting the edge slip.  We need a ski that resists twisting much more than someone who doesn't ski on hardpack/ice all the time.  Typically expert level carving skis have this tendancy.  Torsion enough to give "expert" performance on snow is helpful in providing less than expert level performance on ice/hardpack for those with less than expert skills (an expert could probably get by with less).

 

There were many Head skis called "Cyber".  The ones you listed look pretty skinny in the middle.  How old are they?  The Cyber skis you have might do ok with a good tune up, though I'm pretty sure you can do better there too (just going by how skinny they are).  If you're not having any balance issues, just not happy with what you can get out of the ski, try getting them sharpened up before buying new skis, but first see if they have enough torsional rigidity; grab your ski at the tip and at the bindings and twist.  If you can twist it more than you can the near-race skis in the shop, forgetaboutit.

 

BTW You can stick the demensions into physicsman's radius calculator here if you're interested and have Excel on your computer: http://www.epicski.com/wiki/sidecut-radius-calculator

post #7 of 9
Thread Starter 

cool yeh the skis i have are great for me and those looked similar so i thought they would be a nice upgrade, the ski conditions in australia are mostly hard packed icy snow or packed snow, we do get some good soft powder and belive me i know the difference from skiing in powder to icy snow especially on a sharp decline!!

 

i've found my skis currently i own work good easy to turn but harder to turn going downhill also i find them easy to turn in powder but harder to turn in icy conditions maybe need an edging?? i am not sure but anyway thanks for all the info and help

 

i'll look into it more and see what the local guys say. the only problem is soooo many places rip off people who have no idea so i wanna know as much as possible before making a choice

post #8 of 9

This post http://www.epicski.com/forum/thread/93954/cheap-rentals

might give some insight into what an improved ski can do.

post #9 of 9
Thread Starter 

http://paulski.com.au/products.php?range=W&category=5

 

what ski would be be best for me outta them

New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Beginner Zone