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Seems odd for me to be asking about skis before I head to the beach (last day before Earl hits), but I am 44 male, 6'2" 190lbs and have recently started skiing after a 20+ year hiatus. My wife and kids bugged me enough to go again 2 years ago and I'm re-hooked? Anyway, I'm probably a 4-5 depending on the conditions and after a long career of shining a seat for a living, I'm a soft 190, so picture a "b" and you've got an idea of my shape. I figure there's no point in lying about my ability or shape if I want useful feedback. So...

 

I bought '08 K2 Raiders 173 cm that were used once for a good price (boots, bindings, pools etc.) and on some days ski them fine but they demand a lot of limited skills all the time for me to enjoy them. If I ski them hard they ski better, problem is- I can't ski that hard for that long. I ski 100% east cost and may go out west eventually but for this discussion let's say 100% east coast. My goal is to be able to ski the entire mountain in control, ski hard here and there, but really just be a good recreational skier. So my question is: should I look at a different ski? A shorter ski? Or suck it up and ski into the ones I have? Any advice would be helpful, thanks in advance. An yes I'm looking into bootfiting.

 

On a side note, PhilPug, based on your facebook profile (and some mutual friends) I think we went to the same HS. I graduated PMHS in '84. Also, since you have an idea where I live (though I'm in Pike county now) is there a good bootfitter near me? Thanks.

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Seems odd for me to be asking about skis before I head to the beach (last day before Earl hits), but I am 44 male, 6'2" 190lbs and have recently started skiing after a 20+ year hiatus. My wife and kids bugged me enough to go again 2 years ago and I'm re-hooked? Anyway, I'm probably a 4-5 depending on the conditions and after a long career of shining a seat for a living, I'm a soft 190, so picture a "b" and you've got an idea of my shape. I figure there's no point in lying about my ability or shape if I want useful feedback. So...

 

I bought '08 K2 Raiders 173 cm that were used once for a good price (boots, bindings, pools etc.) and on some days ski them fine but they demand a lot of limited skills all the time for me to enjoy them. If I ski them hard they ski better, problem is- I can't ski that hard for that long. I ski 100% east cost and may go out west eventually but for this discussion let's say 100% east coast. My goal is to be able to ski the entire mountain in control, ski hard here and there, but really just be a good recreational skier. So my question is: should I look at a different ski? A shorter ski? Or suck it up and ski into the ones I have? Any advice would be helpful, thanks in advance. An yes I'm looking into bootfiting.

 

On a side note, PhilPug, based on your facebook profile (and some mutual friends) I think we went to the same HS. I graduated PMHS in '84. Also, since you have an idea where I live (though I'm in Pike county now) is there a good bootfitter near me? Thanks.

 

 

The Raider is about as easy of a ski to ski as you will find, I think you just need to adjust to it. It sounds liek the issues you are having with the skis is stemming from a poor fitting boot. Closest fitter to you that I can think of is Nestors in Allentown. 

 

Was with Tom Burawski yesterday, I think he was in your class. I see Andy (Aileens brother) and Glenn from time to time out here too. Been trying to meet up with Lea Ann and Rich just haven't been able to coordinate it. 
 

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Thanks Phil. Too many IPAs I guess. I thought Nestors went out of business, but I know where the are/used to be. I'm working on a project in Norwood Ma, any Mass guys know a good bootfitter?

 

Tom Burawski is younger than me but I know Tom his older brother David and his cousins Al, Dave and Mike. I think Greg Knize is in LA, he must still ski, no? I graduated with Greg.

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Nestor's has a web-site (albeit a poor one) so I guess they are still in business and according to the ask the boot guys forum there is a fitter in Westwood ma, which is really close to Norwood, lucky me.

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Demo.  Your setup should be good enough to get you up to the hill this winter.  If I were in your shoes (boots) I'd try to make it to mountains with on hill demo centers (like Mt Mansfield) this winter and demo lots of different brands in different sizes through the day.  Then next summer you can buy 'em half off ;-)

 

The other thing you might want to do is take some lessons from someone who can show you how to ski on the newer (circa 2003 and newer) skis.  Once you get both skis up on edge you may find you prefer different equipment.

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Nice to hear that you are back skiing and loving it.  I got back into the sport two years ago and was lost when it came to getting new equipment.  If you are skiing on the same terrain that I am i.e. groomed, hardpack and sometime icy runs (they call it "piste" now) I would get something along the lines of a slalom or giant slalom ski.  Giant Slalom skis hold a great edge on hardpack and if you get the right boots and then work on your form, you can ski fairly effortlessly with the right setup.  And fast!  Bumps, powder, trees etc. are challenging and a lot of work.  Nothing wrong with staying on the groomed runs and just enjoying your day.  Once you get back into skiing shape throw on some 165 slalom race skis and get down to business, so much fun!

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Agree with the boot comment.  Don't think the Raider is a good ski for you though., too long a turn radius, too soft, not enough torsional rigidity for hardpack and ice.

Read this: http://www.epicski.com/forum/thread/65117/intermediate-skiers-who-prefer-expert-skis

 

Get some skis that are maybe a step or two below race skis, but suitable for high performance skiing that will let you carve higher g turns cleanly on hard snow instead sideslipping/drifting them and you will spend less energy.  Go for a turn radius of between 13 and 16.

 

You can get some good reviews of many suitable skis at realskiers.com (for a subscription fee).

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