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So i'm looking to get new skiis for next season and want to figure out which ones to get before the sales start. I would appreciate any advice on which pair I should get.

 

I ski in whistler, and I love to do the tree skiing there. I need a pair that can handle pow and ice.

 

I'm thinking of a ski that is around 14-15 m turning radius, about 160-170 cm in length, 90-110 mm underfoot, and maybe something on the lighter side.

 

Do you know of skiis with that combination of specs?

 

Thanks in advance

post #2 of 6

Check out Icelantic. Probably the Shamans or the Nomad. I think they have a rockered ski this year too - dunno much about that. But when I think short, fat and turny, I think Icelantic.

 

As for ice... well, you're going to have a hard time finding a 100+mm ski that kills it on ice. All ice isn't create equal though. NorthEast ice.... well, that's a whole 'nother world. But Whistler.. the Shamans with their big side cut will get ya through it. FYI - my home mountain is Crested Butte.

post #3 of 6

Welcome to Epic. In my own experience, nothing beats a shorter, fatter ski with some rocker for trees. Preferably not too stiff. The Blizzard One or several K2's come to mind. OTOH, ice demands something that's stiffer, narrower, and preferably with light or no rocker. Whistler pow is heavy, and can become soaked partway down, so that asks for something fatter and rockered, but with some beef. So you may have to make some compromises. IMO, since you mention trees first, concentrate on that. And to fit the snow, go to Whistler and walk down the road a bit to Prior. Ask to demo their Doughboy. Makes heavy snow in trees into a video game. Or if you want a higher speed missile that still is nimble in trees, try the Overlord. Both have rocker, bomber maple cores with carbon, nice graphics choices. Neither are superior on ice, but will tolerate it. Another call would be a PM Gear Lhasa Pow, also nimble, carbon wood core, less bomber construction but lighter and better on hardpack. 

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nothing beats a shorter, fatter ski with some rocker for trees. Preferably not too stiff.

 ice demands something that's stiffer, narrower, and preferably with light or no rocker.



 

post #5 of 6

I agree with the others.  Do you want a powder ski, or an ice ski?  These are completely different animals.  The standard answer for a powder ski that can do decent on harder snow would probably include:  Icelantic Shaman, PM Gear Lhasa, or DPS Wailer series.  I would take a close look at G3 Tonics or something similar, they might treat you well.

post #6 of 6

Fujative, calm down. The OP is talking about Whistler, not a GS course in Vermont. I've done sheet ice on various fat rockers, and no, they weren't as secure as a Contact 4x4, but most worked decently. Lhasas in particular. A front rocker doesn't prevent hooking up a carve, it just shortens the effective length and likes higher angles. In reality, it's the width and flex of a fatter ski that works against it on ice more than the curvature. Tail rockers or zero camber are something else, but notice I didn't recommend those. 

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