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post #1 of 26
Thread Starter 

I am seeking input on what size (175 or 180) to get in Fischer Progressor 9+.  I am 38yo, 6'3" 255 (typically 240 or so by the time the flakes are flying), athletic former college LB.  I am probably level 8 skier.  I have seen reviews stating that 175 was plenty for those slightly smaller than me, but didn't know if I needed the 180, which I have read is a lot of ski.  I ski fast with pretty good technique, but also ski with my kids and wife who don't ski as fast.  Live in the east, but outside of a couple of day trips on small hills, most skiing comes with family trips to CO or UT.  I have some fatter skis, and am looking to upgrade the skinny end of the quiver. 

 

Any input on whether I should go up to 180 would be greatly appreciated. 

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post #2 of 26

I have the 175 Progressor 9+  and can bend it into a turn relatively easily.  I am smaller than you (5'11"  185lbs).  I would go with the 180.

post #3 of 26

The 180 cm ski is more appropriate to your size and weight than the 175 cm.

post #4 of 26

180 cm,no doubt...

In cm your height is around 190cm, so the skis will still be shorter than you..

The  sidecut is the same, so another meter in radius 16m/175, compared to 17m/180 is not going to be even worth mentioning..

But 5cm longer skis will give stability you want, espeially at higher speeds and you sir are big guy..

Last but not least, if you get the 180's there are no longer skis available in this product line-up and you can't blame your self later/ damn, why didn't I get the longer skis???/...

 

Same happened to me when I bought cheater-RC4 WC RC in 170cm... Then I allways wanted 175's.

 

Finally you make the call.......

post #5 of 26
Thread Starter 

Thanks for the replies, especially the point about getting the longest size and not regretting--I know exactly what you mean and it really would haunt me.

post #6 of 26
Thread Starter 

ok.  I never pulled the trigger.  Now I have shed several pounds and plan to stay there down from 255 to 229lbs.  Should I still get the 180 or move down to the 175?

post #7 of 26

As an owner of a 175cm Progressor 9+, and 6'6", 260lbs., I'm gonna disagree with the other posters.  The 175 is PLENTY of ski unless you're planning to use it as a rec racing ski, or like going super duper fast all the time.  These may be the most stable skis I've ever been on that weren't explicitly marketed as "race" skis.

 

Could you ski the 180?  Sure.  IMO the 175cm has plenty of stability already and handles bumps better.

 

There's also the 10+... another instructor at my resort got a pair and likes them, but I haven't been on them.  They don't have a demo pair in our shop.  Supposedly the construction is a bit softer.

post #8 of 26
Thread Starter 

thanks. 

post #9 of 26

I would strongly suggest 180s.  (is your level 8 level 8 overall, or just for groomers? ... there are alot of people who are level 10 on hard snow and sucking-a** in bumps/glades, due to entirely different techniques/mechanics)

 

Anyway, regardless, 175 could be pretty small for you at your size, especially if you are taking it faster/utilizing the larger radius of that ski.  Furthermore, being a college LB, you're legs are already rock-solid and you'll have no trouble using a 180cm ski (which is still well shorter than you).

 

Just my 0.02... good luck

post #10 of 26
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I would strongly suggest 180s.  (is your level 8 level 8 overall, or just for groomers? ... there are alot of people who are level 10 on hard snow and sucking-a** in bumps/glades, due to entirely different techniques/mechanics)

 

Anyway, regardless, 175 could be pretty small for you at your size, especially if you are taking it faster/utilizing the larger radius of that ski.  Furthermore, being a college LB, you're legs are already rock-solid and you'll have no trouble using a 180cm ski (which is still well shorter than you).

 

Just my 0.02... good luck



there is no such thing as a level 10 on hardsnow, who sucks ass in glades and bumps.

 

If you suck in glades in bumps you suck on hard snow as well.

post #11 of 26
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there is no such thing as a level 10 on hardsnow, who sucks ass in glades and bumps.

 

If you suck in glades in bumps you suck on hard snow as well.



This kind of thing bothers me every time I see it.  I know plenty of skiers who specialize in a certain area, and aren't as good at others.

Personally, I ski almost entirely in PA (One trip west, ever, I'm sure you can sympathize bushwacker), and I've become a very good frontside, hard snow skier.  I've never really been exposed to powder or tree skiing, so I'm pretty below average on those fronts.  I would definitely say despite this, that I'm a high-level hard snow skier.

post #12 of 26
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there is no such thing as a level 10 on hardsnow, who sucks ass in glades and bumps.

 

If you suck in glades in bumps you suck on hard snow as well.


 

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post #13 of 26

WHY DO SO MANY PEOPLE WANT SHORT SKIS? MAN UP SKI THEM BIG, AND LONG. The shortest guy in our group at 5'6" shortest non sl ski is 183cm.

post #14 of 26
Go with the 180. I'm 6'1, 195, no linebacker, but a has been rugby player (flanker), and your age...the 175 is as short in that ski as I like to go, you've got some height and at least 30lbs on me. You're probably carry a fair amount of your weight up in your chest and shoulders...think of the length of the ski like a flying butress...the bigger and taller the wall, the longer the length of the butress. The 180 will be easier to ski in a variety of conditions.
post #15 of 26

I say a go as big as you can with the Progressor lines. Because of the slalom like turn entry, and the GS style exit they are going to feel more turny(sic) if you enter a turn hard. But they're still going to come around in big fast arcs like a GS ski when you exit a turn. I'm 5'8", 162 pounds and a level 7/8 skier. And  I think that I'm going to be on a 170cm Progressor 10+, same as on my Atomic SX-12 skis.

 

Mike


Edited by ctskierguy - 11/20/11 at 4:53pm
post #16 of 26
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Originally Posted by mtwhoosh View Post

ok.  I never pulled the trigger.  Now I have shed several pounds and plan to stay there down from 255 to 229lbs.  Should I still get the 180 or move down to the 175?


Considering that I weigh 165 lbs and would be considering somewhere in between 170 and 180 cm for that ski, you should definitely go for 180.

 

post #17 of 26
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This kind of thing bothers me every time I see it.  I know plenty of skiers who specialize in a certain area, and aren't as good at others.

Personally, I ski almost entirely in PA (One trip west, ever, I'm sure you can sympathize bushwacker), and I've become a very good frontside, hard snow skier.  I've never really been exposed to powder or tree skiing, so I'm pretty below average on those fronts.  I would definitely say despite this, that I'm a high-level hard snow skier.



the thing is if your truly good, and get the right equipment there is almost no learning curve. I was able to ski multi feet of powder in utah after never skiing out west the first day I ever saw it on 162 metrons. Once I got my Gotama I could actually keep up with the maggots.

 

I have never not been able to ski powder. There was a point in time I couldnt ski bumps but I eventually learned that as well, and it made my groomer skiing even better.

 

If I saw video of you skiing groomers, I could tell you exactly why you can not ski in powder/bumps or anywhere else. If you one of those types that doesnt do anything but carve carve carve all day your kinda of proving my point of why a 'high end" groomer skier isnt a high end skier.

 

 

post #18 of 26
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Originally Posted by BushwackerinPA View Post

the thing is if your truly good, and get the right equipment there is almost no learning curve. I was able to ski multi feet of powder in utah after never skiing out west the first day I ever saw it on 162 metrons. Once I got my Gotama I could actually keep up with the maggots.

 

I have never not been able to ski powder. There was a point in time I couldnt ski bumps but I eventually learned that as well, and it made my groomer skiing even better.

 

If I saw video of you skiing groomers, I could tell you exactly why you can not ski in powder/bumps or anywhere else. If you one of those types that doesnt do anything but carve carve carve all day your kinda of proving my point of why a 'high end" groomer skier isnt a high end skier.

 



bush....new season but same old crap from you....   nonono2.gif

 

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Find my someone who actually rips hard snow and is truly hopeless off trail.

 

That person doesnt exist because my statement is true

 

 

post #20 of 26
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bush....new season but same old crap from you....   nonono2.gif

 



its the same old crap because its true. prove me wrong. find a skier who can rip hardsnow but is hopeless off trail.  there is no such thing as a hard snow only good skier.

 

the last time someone took me up on that MA it was quite clear why they could only ski groomers.

 

 

post #21 of 26
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its the same old crap because its true. prove me wrong. find a skier who can rip hardsnow but is hopeless off trail.  there is no such thing as a hard snow only good skier.

 

the last time someone took me up on that MA it was quite clear why they could only ski groomers.

 



Why can't you concentrate on YOUR skiing and just enjoy that? Why do you feel the need to worry what others are doing?

 

What does it matter to you if they can or can't ski anything up to your "amazing" standard? You've been on skis for all of what, 5 years now? You think you are some kind of authority or that anyone really cares? Prove you wrong? Why? They can ski where they want, how they want on whatever terrain they pick or simply what is available to them.

 

 

 

 

 

post #22 of 26
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Originally Posted by Vitamin Ski View Post

I would strongly suggest 180s.  (is your level 8 level 8 overall, or just for groomers? ... there are alot of people who are level 10 on hard snow and sucking-a** in bumps/glades, due to entirely different techniques/mechanics)

Just my 0.02... good luck

Hey, you have seen me in the bumpswink.gif

That is why I would never claim to be a level anything.  OP, I am presently 5'10" 200lbs before gear, so an easy 215lbs with. While my bump day skis are a shorter 178, I really prefer the cravability, the power I can put down on a 183-187 ski.  I can ski either size slow with a group of people, but I do enjoy the feel of a longer ski more. That said, at your size, the 180 is a short ski IMO. I can easily see you rockin a 188 Super Bro at your sizebiggrin.gif

post #23 of 26

Ok.  Challenge accepted. Didier Cuche  rips on hardpack.  Whether or not he rips in bumps depends on how high you set the bar.

post #24 of 26
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Why can't you concentrate on YOUR skiing and just enjoy that? Why do you feel the need to worry what others are doing?

 

What does it matter to you if they can or can't ski anything up to your "amazing" standard? You've been on skis for all of what, 5 years now? You think you are some kind of authority or that anyone really cares? Prove you wrong? Why? They can ski where they want, how they want on whatever terrain they pick or simply what is available to them.

 

 

 

 

 




they can ski whereever they want and I have no standards for who I ski with. Just do not post info that is flat out wrong.

post #25 of 26

I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess that mtwhoosh already purchased his skis.

post #26 of 26
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Originally Posted by BushwackerinPA View Post

they can ski whereever they want and I have no standards for who I ski with. Just do not post info that is flat out wrong.*



* In your not so humble opinion

 

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