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Betsy, Amy, Maria, Eileen [climbing spiders with wings these girls  ] Bob Barnes and yours truly met up at the Deer Creek entrance at 9AM ready for some fun on the course.  Many riders were already returning from early morning rides as everyone is preparing for the upcoming Deer Creek Challenge held Aug 29:  Course

 

For those not familiar with this area of Colorado it examples some of the best for road cycling including challenging grades, alternate routes with 33, metric century and century courses, fast descents with some tall views of CO.  Along with that we had a perfect bright sky, no wind and an average temp of 77.  All-in-all we had a group vibe that reminded me of a screaming posse during a bluebird powder day at the Beav  

 

A few cell phone pictures follow including the new surfacing on the descent portion which is simply an awesome eye tearing long run as a reward for your climbing…and brother & sister...it feels like you're skiing .  We really locked onto it especially after both Bob and I happened to have mounted new clinchers the night before.  With his Hutchinson’s and my GP 4000s we rolled lightning fast and could lean deep.  Damn that was a good time and a great day with cycling fanatics

 

A smooth Black ribbon of fun:

 

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Eileen, Bob, Amy and Betsy at a donation gator-aid and water bottle stop:

 

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Betsy and Bob share post ride camaraderie as wise Eileen parks it at the back of our jeep:

 

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Could I possible spread out any further?  Goodbye Eileen, apparently I want both chairs

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post #2 of 39

Hi Don,

 

Thanks for sharing, I really enjoyed the pictures.

 

One of the reasons many Chicagoans work the hills in the region is so they can aspire to your kind of riding. It's certainly a long term goal of mine to enjoy a Colorado cycling event.

 

Cheers,

 

Michael

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 It's certainly a long term goal of mine to enjoy a Colorado cycling event.

 

Cheers,

 

Michael

 

 

Your Dairyland Dare 150km Riide report exampled a hell of an accomplishment.  Certainly you can leverage your training program and current skills anywhere for events in the plains, back east, Cali or here.  But make no mistake…cycling in CO foothills and mountains is as unique and visually inspiring as skiing.  It feels different, it is different, its heaven [as defined as a place for cyclists that includes easy access, low to no humidity,  the smell of pine and a constant look up or down].

 

It would be great to have you make a ride with us out here.  What CO event rides are you considering?  Leaders in CO event cycling on this forum such as habacomike and USASkiDawg are a great sounding board for such.

 

Hmm; I’m also now thinking that perhaps we need to form our own Epic CO Cycling Event one day...wouldn't that be a gas!  I’ll bet we could even get Josh to run SAG for us laughing as he picks up us laggard roadies    

 

 


 

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I still say we need a RAGBRAI team.

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I still say we need a RAGBRAI team.


I extol the virtues of CO cycling and you suggest forming a team to ride across...

 
I give up.bmp

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In that other place you can have Chicken-fried anything. For Breakfast.

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^^

Tru dat...along with a side of corn and map to the quad cities.  However; been there, friends there but sure as hell won’t pilgrimage over I-80 to cycle there  

post #8 of 39

I've flown halfway across the country for it a few times. It's quite an experience.

 

CO looks pretty sweet too. I can't really even fathom what those road descents must be like.

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By the way, funny cycling story...

 

My brother, my father and I are in the Omaha airport picking up our bikes from the baggage check. As my brother is pulling his bike out a nun walks up to him and asks him what he's doing. "Riding across Iowa" he says. She has a shocked look on her face. Flabbergasted that anyone would do such a thing (maybe she was from CO?) "Well", she says, "let me bless your bike". Like she knows he needs help to make it. She blesses his bike as we are getting the rental car. Later that day I put all of the bikes together and we take them for a short spin to make sure they are good to go for the ride. We turn left out of my grandmother's driveway onto a typical Iowa gravel road headed for "The Pavement" which was probably only three miles away. My Dad and I both double-flatted before we made it a mile to the bridge. Had to drive into town and buy 4 new tires as they were sliced right open. My brother never so much as missed a shift the whole week.

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Could we do both?

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By the way, funny cycling story...

 

My brother, my father and I are in the Omaha airport picking up our bikes from the baggage check. As my brother is pulling his bike out a nun walks up to him and asks him what he's doing. "Riding across Iowa" he says. She has a shocked look on her face. Flabbergasted that anyone would do such a thing (maybe she was from CO?) "Well", she says, "let me bless your bike". Like she knows he needs help to make it. She blesses his bike as we are getting the rental car. Later that day I put all of the bikes together and we take them for a short spin to make sure they are good to go for the ride. We turn left out of my grandmother's driveway onto a typical Iowa gravel road headed for "The Pavement" which was probably only three miles away. My Dad and I both double-flatted before we made it a mile to the bridge. Had to drive into town and buy 4 new tires as they were sliced right open. My brother never so much as missed a shift the whole week.

 

Your story brings back memories as a Catholic kid being taught by nuns till the 8th  grade.  In particular, my Dad always suggested that you ask for a blessing at any opportunity.  He always said if blessings got him through the war he’d always ask for more.   

 

The day I learned how to ride a bike there was a Catholic Priest over to our house for dinner who Dad eariler had asked of him to bless me and my bike prior to launching off on my first attempts... 

 

We lived on a hilly street, a good one for momentum, but so much so that when I got started I rolled so surprisingly fast that it caught both my Dad and the Priest off guard.  They could not catch me as I was flying downhill balanced upright and living large certainly with some stupid ass grin on my face.  I could hear screaming behind me [wow...my mother sure could yell out] but had no idea it was anything but cheers for me.  Had I known those were cries of terror as I approached a well traveled ‘T’ intersection I probably would have hit the bricks rather than go blindly through barely missing a car approaching on my left and a Bus on my right.  The best movie stunt coordination could not have timed that better.

 

So  I hit the curb on the other side of the intersection and went flying softly into a bunch of Russian Sage plants I was not scared as I was picking myself up having no clue how narrowly that car and bus missed me.  All I could think about was that jump was way cool and certainly had to be a big part of bicycling

 

Of course I started to cry once I saw the look on everyone’s face as they rushed up to me.  I remember hearing the Bus driver say “that boy was lucky".  Well...no, actually...

 

"I was blessed"     


 

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Could we do both?


Of course!   And if my sarcasm emoticon was missed, I want to assure you that I have actually considered that particular ride.  I grew up across the river from that state and have friends that ride that event religiously…actually it’s more of a cult ride than event IMO.   That ride and the one across Maine are on my bucket list.


 

post #13 of 39

DON!  

 

How come I never get invited on these awesome bike escapades??  Ok.  Let's be clear.  I know that altitude would kick my butt.  So why don't you guys come to some flatter spot so that we can all ride it up.

 

How about a Livestrong event??

Boston has an event in September with a pro crit in the city on saturday and a charity ride on sunday.

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Nice report, Don!  Looks like the paving crew knew y'all were going to pay those roads a visit - and there's nothing like the silent whirr of road tires on freshly lain tarmac.

 

Working on a report about my last three weekends: "Three Saturdays, Three Centuries."  'Til then.... keep on enjoying the roads and note my jealousy with regard to the altitude y'all reach out there - somehow, almost hitting 4,000' doesn't seem like much.  Heheheh....

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DON!  

 

How come I never get invited on these awesome bike escapades??  Ok.  Let's be clear.  I know that altitude would kick my butt.  So why don't you guys come to some flatter spot so that we can all ride it up.

 

How about a Livestrong event??

Boston has an event in September with a pro crit in the city on saturday and a charity ride on sunday.

First things first K…how about we see you out here skiing this season   And btw, no worries for you cycling out here with all the miles you’re putting in on your bike.  Insofar as Boston, we’ll be back but unfortunately not during the event timeframe



 

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Nice report, Don!  Looks like the paving crew knew y'all were going to pay those roads a visit - and there's nothing like the silent whirr of road tires on freshly lain tarmac.

 

Working on a report about my last three weekends: "Three Saturdays, Three Centuries."  'Til then.... keep on enjoying the roads and note my jealousy with regard to the altitude y'all reach out there - somehow, almost hitting 4,000' doesn't seem like much.  Heheheh....

Wow Rudi; you’ll soon be on Grand Tours competing in GC as you soon compress those weekend centuries into daily rides.  Look forward as always to see your ride write ups here or over on RD...good stuff.



 

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What's RD? Another place where I can waste my time?

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What's RD? Another place where I can waste my time?


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What's RD? Another place where I can waste my time?

 

Yeah…like we need more cyber time bandits…but it’s either a forum or Scrabulous that get’s you through a conf call that mindlessly goes on and on and …

 

Songfta’s blog musings called “randomduck” where he often will link his TR’s back here.

   



 

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So Don/Bob/Dave, did you guys ride the Deer Creek Challenge?  And how was it?

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I couldn't - I was on call today. All I got out for was a 15 mile quick ride on the flats before it began storming here in town (quite a head wind on the way home!).

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So Don/Bob/Dave, did you guys ride the Deer Creek Challenge?  And how was it?

 

Just notice I'm a little tardy with this reply Mike...but no I did not feeling a little guilty of riding that inaugural event without Betsy as she was recovering from her Colorado Relay run and was not prepared for the 100 mile ride.  So we went up summit for a shorter ride with cgeib on Sunday.  However Bob and Eileen did and they really kicked ass on that ride…at a really impressive tempo.  A terrific accomplishment for them both with that long circut.  Certainly next year for all of us [that’s you and others here as well btw...you know...a team epic entry].

 

Some terrific stories Bob shared with us about all the local homeowners cheering on riders from their drives…which was good to hear as sharing the road in the narrows of that canyon with homeowners has been an issue.  Unfortunately I’m beginning to see that there are a few cycling folks that just don’t understand “single file” when cycling up on that terrific ride.  Riding the canyon just yesterday I came upon three CAT 2 types ascending side by side like they owned the road while holding up a local auto trying to get around them on the bends.  I turned myself inside out getting up to them pretty much just saying “guys?” with a shrug…they just grunted and stood on the cranks accelerating off doing their team Astana “lets drop him” impression…still all side by side      



 

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Yes, we did it! Here's my report from the day after (sorry, no pictures):

 

What a ride! Given that my primary stated goal was to wake up alive this morning, I must say that it was a raging success. I actually feel pretty good, and may go for an easy ride again today. Eileen (EpicSki's eadjbrown) and I stayed together throughout the ride. Our ride time for the 106 mile event with nearly 13,000 feet of climbing surely didn't set any records at 7 hours 36 minutes (about 14 mph average speed), but all things considered, I'm pretty happy with it.

 

For anyone unfamiliar, here's the official website for the event: Deer Creek Challenge.

 

And here is the Facebook page, with some great comments that mostly reflect my own experience: Facebook--Deer Creek Challenge. "Joe Turcotte" may have summed it up best: "Eleven Ironmans, multiple centuries, Mt. Evans etc. None of them were as challenging for me as Deer Creek. It was the most painful slice of heaven I've ever experienced. As for the organizers, volunteers and sponsors....THANK YOU! Everything about this event was first class. Bicycle Village was everywhere! The "Ott...er Pops" were awesome. The expressions on the faces of the riders was no different than a group of five year olds at an ice cream store....priceless! As for those who questioned "The Toughest Century Ride in the United States" claim, they aren't kidding. If my Garmin is correct, many stretches of road exceeded a 20% grade. Thanks again for a great day." I concur! (But I missed out on those Otter Pops somehow.)

 

It was a very nicely organized event, with many volunteers all cheerful, helpful, and encouraging throughout the ride. Even the locals who live along the route were friendly and supportive, many parked on lawn chairs with coolers to cheer the riders on. On the second (brutal) lap of City View, there were at least two parties who had brought out coolers of cold Coke to offer to riders, although I did not see anyone take advantage of it. It was a nice gesture! I encountered nothing but encouragement and friendly support from everyone along the route. The Jefferson County Sheriffs were there in force, going overboard (in my opinion) to ensure that everyone came to a complete stop at the few stop signs along the route--and reportedly issuing a few tickets to "violators." Before every stop, friendly volunteers were there to warn us of the sheriff's presence, and to be sure to comply with a full stop. As promised, they'd even swept most of the route clean of gravel and debris, especially the curves on the steep descents along City View and Highgrade.

 

It was a little chilly in the morning, especially the long descent down Broken Arrow Road from City View, but it warmed up quickly after that. Unfortunately, we got stuck behind a slow car that was stuck behind other cyclists for almost the entire descent, keeping our speed there a bit below what we would have liked. Some people didn't seem to like this out-and-back spur, but I thought it was cool to see so many riders coming the other direction each way. I suspect we got a chance to see nearly everyone on the century ride (which started earliest, before the metric century and 33-mile rides).

 

We got started at about 6:40 am, a bit later than we'd intended, but with the just-rising sun, it was a gorgeous ride up Deer Creek Canyon. By agreement with Jefferson County, they were starting people in ones and twos to prevent large groups on the road--which seemed to work, although it's not a ride that lends itself to groups or pacelines anyway. I started with my lightweight jacket on, but soon stopped to take it off. First lap of City View/Broken Arrow/Highgrade was not too hard, as we paced ourselves pretty well (better than I usually tend to do!). Then it was on to Shadow Mountain, Evergreen, Kittredge, and back to the Turkey Creek Firehouse aid station (a point we crossed three times). Shadow Mountain was a long climb, with some particularly steep sections, followed by an even longer descent into Evergreen and Kittredge, a brief ride along the wide shoulder of Highway 285 and back to Turkey Creek Road. From there, the final ascent of City View loomed, and it was brutal--a sentiment that seemed to be shared by everyone who got that far (I'd like to know how many that was). Surely, the heat of the day must have expanded those mountains and doubled the already-steep-enough gradient of those climbs, and there must have been something wrong with my pedals, which seemed to go around slower than the first time, and require more effort. But the final summit came in due time, and the final long (nearly 3000 vertical feet) descent of freshly-paved Highgrade Road to the finish, knowing that we'd done it and there were no more climbs ahead, was glorious and rejuvenating and oh-so-satisfying. We finished strong!

 

Century riders got their ride numbers stamped at key waypoints along the route, as well as the start and finish. Only those who got all the stamps were entitled to receive the Century jersey, while they had a different commemorative jersey available for everyone else. I hadn't preordered a jersey at the discount price, but I decided to buy one at the finish. It's a nice, full-zip Pearl Izumi jersey--much better than the typical jerseys from other rides. And I earned it! Eileen, always smarter and never lacking confidence, merely picked up her preordered century jersey. (She, by the way, gets stronger and stronger after about 40 miles, just when everyone else starts fading. I've never seen an evil laughing grin quite like hers as she passed rider after rider, mostly younger males, on those brutal climbs!)

 

I was afraid that the battery on my aging Garmin Edge 305 gps cycling computer would not hold out for the whole ride, but it made it almost all the way to the end, finally dying on the access road to Denver Botanical Gardens, in sight of the finish line. Unfortunately, the heartrate monitor died a few days ago, so I didn't get that data or have the opportunity to use it to help pace my ride. 


It is a great ride--a first-rate event--and I hope they will be able to continue it for years to come. The whole thing was a very sensitive issue with Jefferson County locals and authorities, and the event managers, volunteers, and most of the riders did a great job to keep everything under control and respect the fact that this was a test, and that future events in Jefferson County would largely rely on its success. I was disappointed to see a few energy gel packets discarded along the route, left by a few cyclists who just don't get it. But they were the exception, and from the reactions of the locals I saw, combined with the fact that the event raised money for local charities, I hope the ride will be welcomed back next year.

 

See you all there!

 

Best regards,
Bob

 

PS--Apparently, there was the to-be-expected "tack attack" as some low-life with less-than-dizzying intellect sprinkled thumbtacks on the Highgrade Road descent before the ride, but I wasn't aware of it until reading it in the Denver Post:  Meyer: Deer Creek Challenge succeeds despite sabotage. They had it swept up pretty quickly, I guess, and I've heard no word of injury or other incident. Honestly, though, besides the real risk of seriously hurting or even killing someone by causing a front tire blowout at 40+ mph, you have to admit that these predictable antics are getting old and boring. All it takes is one, and you can pretty much count on some gray-matter-deficient moron to do it for every large ride these days. To the perpetrator: get a life--or at least, an imagination. It's not much to be proud of!

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Great report, Bob, and congrats on starting and finishing the Deer Creek Challenge.  Several of my friends rode it (my conditioning is such that I wussed out) and said it was the hardest ride they'd ever done.  If it makes you feel any better, they did it in 8hr 30 mins, starting at around 5:45.  As a victim of the Triple Bypass tack attack on Squaw Pass from several years ago, I'm really sensitive to those reports.  In my view, throwing tacks on a steep downhill section is nothing less than attempted murder, and I'm stunned (although not surprised) the Jeffco Sheriffs seem disinclined to investigage any further.  Clearly, its more important for law enforcement to ensure cyclists come to a full stop at a stop sign on a traffic controlled course than it is to locate and arrest the cretins that live in the foothills of Denver and who have a sufficient hardon for cyclists that they're willing to stoop to these depths.  I ride those routes nearly every good weather weekend, and suffer insults and epithats on most such rides even though I'm good about staying to the right and riding single file (unlike your two/three abreast Team Astana TDF wannabes, who do the rest of us no favors).  I often wonder if those guys in the big pickups are just worried I'm going to stumble across one of their illicit stills.

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Bob, fantastic accomplishment!  I aspire to be in good enough shape that I could contemplate that ride.  And it's no surprise that you wound up with the century jersey.  If I finished that ride, I'd put mine in a frame and hang it on the wall!

 

Who's doing the Buff?

 

Mike

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13,000 feet of climbing???  I've done 10k a couple times in the New England mountains.  I usually wake up the next morning with one of those "it seemed like a good idea at the time.." feelings.  I couldn't imagine trying to crank out 13k.

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Yea, my max has been around 7k. That's a very big day for me. I need to lose another 25 lbs to be able to do a day like this one.

Mike
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13,000 feet of climbing???  I've done 10k a couple times in the New England mountains.  I usually wake up the next morning with one of those "it seemed like a good idea at the time.." feelings.  I couldn't imagine trying to crank out 13k.


If you can do 10k of new england assuming you are acclimated to the elevation 13k in the rockies would be pretty easy to streach to.. most climbs in utah and colorado rarely exceed 15 percent. 

 

shallow and long is easy IMO.

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15% is shallow!!! That would be Hors Categorie in the TdF!

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If you can do 10k of new england assuming you are acclimated to the elevation 13k in the rockies would be pretty easy to streach to.. most climbs in utah and colorado rarely exceed 15 percent. 

 

shallow and long is easy IMO.

 

Don’t speak for CO my friend…I live here and ride here…I’ll let you know about grades and altitude issues when climbing.  Come out and we’ll put some steel in those giggly rubber bands of yours as we craft you a new pair of lungs   



 

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15% is shallow!!! That would be Hors Categorie in the TdF!


I have a 20 percent 400 vertical climb to my house in da burgh. . 20 - 30 percent for a couple hundred feet here is common. I suffer much worse on steep even if its short than long and shallower.

 

When I get on a MTB climbing is so easy as singletrack is almost never that steep.

 

Don youll see me next summer sometime I hope. Good luck turning my legs inside out :P.


Edited by BushwackerinPA - 9/3/10 at 10:22am
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