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Fischer RC4 Worldcup Pro 110?

post #1 of 9
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Anyone with any experience with this boot. I have crooked legs, narrow feet and goofy knees. I'd like to buy boot at a local shop but a few years ago I spent hours walking around Vail looking for a Fischer dealer without success and finally tried some Fischer yellow MX Pros from the Internet a few years ago that ski fine but are much too wide for me at 102mm (Ad said they were 99mm)Today I received some RC4 Worldcup Pro 110 boots over the Internet that feel good once I have them on but are difficult to put on even at 80 degrees. These are the solid yellow boots that are listed as 95mm width and solid soles, no remove able toe and heel pads. There is no year model on the box - it may be a 2008. Does anyone have any experience with this boot? What should I do with the lace up liners? Do I put on the liners like a sock and then put my foot in the boot? I'm a 63 year old skier -don't need a stiff boot - not a racer - I ordered these because of the narrow width and toes out stance. The boots have two screws on the back of the boots that should allow you to loosen up the flex but the bolt/screws have a smooth head making it impossible to unscrew it. How can they be adjusted if there are no slots to fit a posi-driver or alen wrench in the screw/bolt? Could this be why these boots are for sell on the Internet? Any advice or insight is appreciated.


post #2 of 9
Thread Starter 

Ok - The shell fit is good but they are tight and stiff with light ski socks. I still do not know the advantages or disadvantages of the lace up liner. I know my old Fischer boots are very temperature sensitive so they'll probably get stiffer in cold weather. The two rivets on the back of the shell must be drilled out to remove or adjust. You can't just unscrew them. They are probably a bargain for somebody but I'm going to send them back.

post #3 of 9

I dont know the boots specfically but here is some stuff to chew on:


  1. The lace up liner:  you asked about putting it on.  Yes you tie it on first, then shove your foot/liner into the shell in one go.
  2. Flex:  All boots get stiffer in the cold...but it is easy to make a boot softer....almost impossible to make it narrower.  Hence if you are sure the fit is good, but are worried about the flex....dont be...easy to soften it up.  Fit is key.
  3. Go to "Ask the Boot Guys" you will get better advice there then here.



I also have very narrow feet as does my wife, so I understand your dilema.  I ski in a WC race boot with lace up liner...but I can work them...my wife on the other hand cant, so her options are more limited...but ultimatley we have moved to narrow race boots for her and are just softening them up...not perfect as race boots are little cold/wet and probably a little too responsive for her, but it is the best solution so far.

post #4 of 9

These particular boots get quite a lot harder when on snow. I have no idea about screws you are talking about, but on all my pairs I had until now (all Fischer Worldcup pro 130 or 150), these screws can be easily unscrewed, but reason to have them there is not with "changing flex" (like it is on some non-racing boots). Flex on this boots can be changed two ways... one is with changing upper part of plastic (sorry but English is not my native language, and I just have no idea how this part of boot is properly called) for softer version, or by cutting it.

As far as putting boot on goes, it's like you and Skidude wrote already. First you put liner on, tie it, and then put all together in shoe. And it helps if you do this while boot is still warm :)

post #5 of 9
Thread Starter 

Thanks for the input.

These may have worked with a few trips to a boot-fitter but since I was buying them on line I'm just not inclined to take on another "boot project" this season.

I thought that was how the lace up liners would work but I hesitated to try them on like that for fear of ripping the liner on a rough/sharp section of plastic in the boot so I just tried them on without the laces.

The two rivets are on the back spine of the boot where the upper section that fits your leg and ankle (Cuff?) attaches to the lower portions that fits around your foot (clog?). I guess they are there to hold the two sections together.

PS: Your English is better than most members, including mine!

post #6 of 9
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Well, I decided to try all the adjustments on these before sending them back and found they fit much better after I pulled the small wad of paper out from under the insole!!! Evidently someone had pulled out the insoles then replaced them over some tissue paper that was intended to be stuck in the toe of each boot.

I also tried moving the tongue and lacing the liners. The three changes made a lot of difference in the fit - still snug but much more comfortable and now the bottom of my foot fits the bottom of the boot.

On the shell fit I've got about a finger and a half of room at the heel and enough room to wiggle my forefoot around. All of the buckles will work with the straps bolted in the middle of the three available positions.

I'll still need them softened a little for cold weather free skiing. Anyone with any experience on "softening"?

Also, the lace up liner worked great. Why aren't all liners lace up? Seems to be a good idea to me.

post #7 of 9
Originally Posted by steveturner View Post

 Anyone with any experience on "softening"?


You should definatley ski em first...110 is not stiff by any means.  Just checked the Fichser website...110 flex is like 3 or 4 down from their stiffest boots, softest in the their "All mountain performance range"....so these are not stiff...."midflex"...just checked again 110 is the top of their "sport range"...ie intermediate boots.  I doubt you will want to soften these....ski em first


But ....to soften there are two primary methods:


Remove back bolts/rivets...but be careful sometimes you can take them all out...sometimes you need to leave the bottom one.


Other way is to cut into the lower cuff and remove materail there...somtimes there will even be a dotted line molded into the plastic showeing where to cut....generally you cut out wedges.  Two methods here:


1:  Cut a "V" in the back of the lower cuff along the spine...might not be possible thou if bolts there.


2:  Cut 2 "V"s on the sides....actually the side cuts are more "U".



Probably best to ski them first...then take em to a good shop and ask them to do it...good shops will have the expereince for you to simply say "make 20% softer....or 10%.."..or whatever you think you need.  The bigger the "V" or "U" the softer you make it.

Edited by Skidude72 - 8/21/10 at 6:09pm
post #8 of 9

Numbers don't mean much. These boots can be 110, but considering they 95mm, these are completely different beast then "normal" boots. I admit, I was never using this model in 110, but I was using 150 before and now 130 for skiing. On the other hand I have "normal/store" Fischer World cup 130 boots as working boots, and these two, even if flex number is marked as same, can't be compared. World cup 130 are relatively soft boots, for me personally way too soft for skiing, but they feel nice when you need to stand on course for hours, and they are still solid enough for me to be able to ski down the WC courses. Worldcup pro 130 on the other side are rock hard... perfect for skiing, but way too hard to do anything else then ski.

So it might not be soft enough. But I agree, with your suggestion about skiing them first. Once you start cutting there's no way back.

post #9 of 9
Thread Starter 

Thanks for your input.

I finally decided to send them back but it was mostly because I already have two pair of perfectly good boots that are already dialed in. I did not see any difference in alignment between the World Cup Pro and my old MX Pro. I had hoped for more of the SOMA effect but they appeared to have the same setup. Different shell - different feel - but same stance.  They were not stiff and would make a great everyday boot for anyone of average size with a narrow foot. Nice smooth flex at room temperature.

I fought uncomfortable boots for years because they were too wide - too much volume. I kept thinking the boot was too small when in fact it was too big - in places. I know a lot more people have extra wide feet than extra narrow but for those of us with narrow feet the various low end race boots look to me like a good "fit".

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