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Armstrong and Ritter announced a few minutes ago the return of pro cycling to Colorado:  the Quizno's Pro Challenge.  It's likely to be a 8 day affair.  I'm really hoping this can happen; I didn't pay any attention as a kid when the Red Zinger Classic and the Coors Classic were here.  Let's keep our fingers crossed...

 

A great example of Lance giving back to cycling.

 

Mike

 

ps.  here's a link about the announcement.

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/08/04/lance-armstrong-bill-ritt_n_670379.html

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Good news indeed Mike.  Any cycling event of that caliber is welcomed and will help cycling as a whole in our state.

 

BTW.  We considered…I say considered…joining LA for the Rabbit Ears/Steamboat event ride 4 O'Yellar event.  The $500 per saddle entry is now full at 200 now.  It will be a circus of a ride of course but I suspect fun watching everyone trying to get on Lance’s wheel. 

 

Steamboat’s  Ride 4 Yellow Bike with Lance

 

Whoa...just now thinking…why the hell is Finn not there   

 

oh…now off for my lunch ride wondering if anyone would pay $500 to ride with me    

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Whoa, that looks cool.  Does anyone know if Lance is showing up for the Leadville 100?  I see he is on the entrants list, along with Levi.  Perhaps he's going to ride Steamboat as a warmup.

 

Mike

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Armstrong and Ritter announced a few minutes ago the return of pro cycling to Colorado:  the Quizno's Pro Challenge.  It's likely to be a 8 day affair.  I'm really hoping this can happen; I didn't pay any attention as a kid when the Red Zinger Classic and the Coors Classic were here.  Let's keep our fingers crossed...

 

A great example of Lance giving back to cycling.

 



While it's great to have a Pro level stage race back in Colorado, I don't see how this is giving back to cycling on "his" part. Something will find it's way into his pockets before all is done.

 

The Zinger and Coors were simply great happenings in the cycling meca of Boulder. I was out there for a few and it was truely as good as it could ever be. I would rather have been there than in France for that "other" stage race.  I know where I'll be next August! 

 

 

More info from Velonews here;

 

http://velonews.competitor.com/2010/08/news/quiznos-to-sponsor-colorado-stage-race_132692 

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BTW.  We considered…I say considered…joining LA for the Rabbit Ears/Steamboat event ride 4 O'Yellar event.  The $500 per saddle entry is now full at 200 now.  It will be a circus of a ride of course but I suspect fun watching everyone trying to get on Lance’s wheel. 

 

Steamboat’s  Ride 4 Yellow Bike with Lance

 


The $500 was a minimum fundraising amount, not the entry fee (that is unless you couldn't raise $500 then indeed it'd be your entry fee if you wanted to ride).  But yeah, the ride filled up mighty quick once it was announced Lance was coming.  They haven't said if he's actually riding in the divide route or just the route around the ski area and doing more pr/appearance stuff, so we'll see.  I was going to ride it myself because my company was going to cover the $500 donation, but the additional $100 entry fee was just a little too much to cough up when I have other things to spend my money on.  So instead I volunteered to be on Lance and Ritter's "security detail"... should be fun.

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Rossi

 

I know you aren't a Lance fan.  And we'll probably have to wait awhile to see exactly what Lance's role was in organizing this event.  It would appear, however, that it was not insignificant.  Lance and Ritter spoke about the objective of returning pro cycling to Colorado a year ago, and Lance purportedly took it on as something he was going to work on.  As you may or may not know, he is a part-time resident of Colorado, owning a house in Aspen and training there last year and this.

 

That being said, I doubt that the Govenor, despite being a cyclist and a fan, had the time or inclination to do this himself.  And lining up Quizno's as the sponsor of the event probably had some non-Armstrong help.  But I'd bet that Lance put more than just his name behind it.  And that is giving back to cycling, at least in my book.

 

Perhaps he'll make some money out of it.  But if he does, it has to be a trivial amount (after all, if these events were lucrative we wouldn't have seen the Tour of Georgia and the Tour of Missouri collapse).  More likely, he's going to get some press out of it and perhaps benefit by keeping his political hopes alive.  We'll see.

 

I did think it was a class act to introduce Davis Phinney as the defending champ of the Coors Classic.

 

Mike

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I did think it was a class act to introduce Davis Phinney as the defending champ of the Coors Classic.

 

Mike



Davis and Connie are pure class.

 

North Boulder Park.....Watching Phinney sprint.....Priceless 

 

 

Some might enjoy this piece from Velonews on the Coors Classic reunion they had a few years back

 

http://velonews.competitor.com/2006/12/news/coors-classic-reunion-phinney-steals-the-show_11300 

 

There was also a great DVD available too......


Edited by Rossi Smash - 8/5/10 at 2:14pm
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Rossi

 

I know you aren't a Lance fan.  And we'll probably have to wait awhile to see exactly what Lance's role was in organizing this event.  It would appear, however, that it was not insignificant.  Lance and Ritter spoke about the objective of returning pro cycling to Colorado a year ago, and Lance purportedly took it on as something he was going to work on.  As you may or may not know, he is a part-time resident of Colorado, owning a house in Aspen and training there last year and this.

 

That being said, I doubt that the Govenor, despite being a cyclist and a fan, had the time or inclination to do this himself.  And lining up Quizno's as the sponsor of the event probably had some non-Armstrong help.  But I'd bet that Lance put more than just his name behind it.  And that is giving back to cycling, at least in my book.

 

Perhaps he'll make some money out of it.  But if he does, it has to be a trivial amount (after all, if these events were lucrative we wouldn't have seen the Tour of Georgia and the Tour of Missouri collapse).  More likely, he's going to get some press out of it and perhaps benefit by keeping his political hopes alive.  We'll see.

 

I did think it was a class act to introduce Davis Phinney as the defending champ of the Coors Classic.

 

Mike


And we all know that if you make any money off it ....it must be a bad thing and you can't be "giving back"

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And we all know that if you make any money off it ....it must be a bad thing and you can't be "giving back"

 

Making money and building your own brand ain't exactly giving back, particularly when as of today you seem to still be on a deny, deny, deny footing.

 

As for the fundraisers, asking other people to donate money in your name...also ain't exactly giving back.  Ego-building and brand-building, yes, giving back, no. 
 

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Making money and building your own brand ain't exactly giving back, particularly when as of today you seem to still be on a deny, deny, deny footing.

 

As for the fundraisers, asking other people to donate money in your name...also ain't exactly giving back.  Ego-building and brand-building, yes, giving back, no. 
 

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Denial ain't just a river in Egypt.....

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Making money and building your own brand ain't exactly giving back, particularly when as of today you seem to still be on a deny, deny, deny footing.

 

As for the fundraisers, asking other people to donate money in your name...also ain't exactly giving back.  Ego-building and brand-building, yes, giving back, no. 
 


 

I'm in denial about what exactly?  I happen think building your brand is ALWAYS the right thing to do...there is NEVER a case where it isn't.  You obviously don't...I wish you luck with that.

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tam; post about this when you can… 

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So instead I volunteered to be on Lance and Ritter's "security detail"... should be fun.

 

 

Say, anyone ride the State cap to Wash Park ride with LA and Ritter Wednesday?

 

 

 

 

 



 

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I'm in denial about what exactly?  I happen think building your brand is ALWAYS the right thing to do...there is NEVER a case where it isn't.  You obviously don't...I wish you luck with that.


Building your brand on obvious falsehoods, in addition to being self-interested, has a tendency to not work out too well.

 

If the brand, in this case, is based on for instance denying against all evidence how the EPO got in those urine samples, the brand stands for what, exactly?  Project "DENY?"

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I'm sure if Lance had played clean, we wouldn't have a race coming to Colorado.  The 250 million he raised for his foundation would not exist.  I read about a guy who was two days from having both nuts chopped by a small town surgeon, but the LAF foundation flew him to Dallas and he is now doing fine.

 

The Tour wins would have gone to some other doper, some Euro who would be living the fat life in Switzerland and doing nothing for cycling or cancer victims here.  Sad state of affairs, but true.

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Building your brand on obvious falsehoods, in addition to being self-interested, has a tendency to not work out too well.

 

If the brand, in this case, is based on for instance denying against all evidence how the EPO got in those urine samples, the brand stands for what, exactly?  Project "DENY?"


If they prove he's a doper (and I already believe he is) then he will be marginally less popular than he his now...still rich, still powerful and still able to put on this race...so what exactly am I in denial about?

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If they prove he's a doper (and I already believe he is) then he will be marginally less popular than he his now...still rich, still powerful and still able to put on this race...so what exactly am I in denial about?

While it sounds like you think he's a doper and liar and admire him for it -- are impressed with money and power -- a lot of people actually believed him. 

 

I think you're in denial as to what happens when the facade completes its tumble.  Others may not groove on dishonesty in the same way.  In practical terms, let's say you're a town in CO wondering whether there will be real benefits to taking part in this race.  I know Vail wouldn't want to host the Jose Canseco home run derby or some such. 


 

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Who'd want to ride in Vail anyway?

 

There's plenty of places in Colorado that'll be happy to have the race.  It's going to be great.

 

Mike

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While it sounds like you think he's a doper and liar and admire him for it -- are impressed with money and power -- a lot of people actually believed him. 

 

I think you're in denial as to what happens when the facade completes its tumble.  Others may not groove on dishonesty in the same way.  In practical terms, let's say you're a town in CO wondering whether there will be real benefits to taking part in this race.  I know Vail wouldn't want to host the Jose Canseco home run derby or some such. 


 

 

 

Malarkey....Vail would be all over anything that gave them publicity.
 

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