Note from a train
ForeRunner - I am sorry I lost any respect you might have, or any possibility that this thread had any useful value … Flee from here, you troll. We all know all good racers use both skis – inside edge on outside ski and outside edge on inside ski - like roller blading
You are losing faith for the wrong reason – my problems are not that I am troll but rather 1) am a bit of deva (shows through so quickly) as well as b) fickle (started a thread with a position I am not so sure of ... ).
What I had originally proposed was the gateway skill to become really good skier was setting and FEATURING (most pressure on, creating a platform on and running on) outside edge inside ski early in the turn. Early meant at the initiation point of the next turn which means at the bottom of last – start of next turn as the ski(s) move under you back across fall line.
But I am not even so sure of this – especially after brief exchange with instructor from Wyoming – who asserted rolling and driving on steeps ("the photo") was better/faster than hockey stop checking. And he was kind enough to note he could see why I used it on really steep stuff – lack of courage was ok with me. I thought a lot about this and concluded he was right – but also hid behind the term gateway. I mean no one is going to roll dive right out of the box on anything so steep you could see the road below between your skis. But also had to admit I was going to have to be willing to roll and dive if I ever wanted to good enough my friends did not leave me behind.
And I also suspect, when suggested setting/FEATURING pre turns on uphill edge on non threatening slopes and bumps – he would put that in the file labeled porn skiing. And I can see his point, If his hypothetical daughter brought home a prospective suitor who in a bid to impress him stated he was really pretty good at popping tails and jumping crests of bumps he would cringe – better had she brought home a boarder.
But me, I like porn star skiing. I mean (who cares if it morally degrading) It’s sorta like mean girls in the movie. The cute girls know their cute and the not so cute ones know their not cute and they also know the cute girls know ... and round and round. So I decided 50 – 50 is ok. He frowns on porn star skiing, I like porn star skiing. And anyway he is a free heeler – probably leads a good life, reads nature magazines and eats granola bars. And again setting up pre turn on outside/inside extends
As to racing, I earlier was careful to note that best racing strategy (I had been taught) was to be 70 – 30 through the turn to maintain a more direct line – the single inside edge of running ski alone had greater potential to skid out as turn tightened.
But having made distinction last post I was referring to initiating new turn (as skis passed under you) as per initial proposal. To rise and FEATURE outside edge uphill ski was to be avoided. It will slow you down and lead to wider longer lines.
But am not all the way there with giving up initial proposal. I still believe if you are an intermediate or even a pretty advanced skier learning to initiate and FEATURE outside edge is a really good skill to have – quickest way to set up high and roll onto new turning ski to carve really nice (long or short) carved turns.
Best way to setup early/good platform for correcting minor structural lapses.
And really useful for slowing down.
Or even consider going down things that are so steep you can see the road below through the tips of your skis.
Also think quickest way to get gold medal in NASTAR.
And ever so fast backing away from any statement as to the test of expert hood; but, have lots of time to think about this as train home now rambles through Western Nebraska. I really know that any extension of this is crazy ... it is getting so tedious "You guys sure know how to suck the fun out of skiing .
But worry not, this is it. With this email have set up my computer to block any attempted access (by me) to this web page - treats it as virus generating spam (I know about time) and automatically returns any email with daemon notice that target does not exist. (even more appropriate, sigh I know)
But lest you think there may residual angst on my part, let me assure you if you are ever in Central Indiana do stop and visit.